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deezler

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Southeast MI
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Cub Cadet 7305
I agree. The 5.9 is an amazing truck engine. My numbers posted on the old Ford, 260/700 are to the ground and is considered a mild build. With two transmissions, a loss of 20% off the crank is about right, so 315/860 at the [email protected] rpm. And for the non believing gasser guys:) here is a dyno sheet and a small load, 29k gcw.

Not bad for a 47 year old truck that spent 20 years in the log woods. 13 years as a gasser and 7 as a diesel hauling heavy. To this day, I would put it against any new 1 ton dually hauling heavy in the log woods. On the big highway, not so much:D

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So... whats up with your very odd power curve there? Most Cummins 5.9's will build power out nicely to around 3000 rpm. Yours only peaks at 1800 and goes down from there? 260 HP is nice for an old 12v, but the curve is odd. Just curious.

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mred2

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West Alabama, USA
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iseki tl3200, JD 450H dozer, LS XR4150, Genie Z34/22N lift
I know most of you guys like diesel, but I like my 2014 ford f-250 gas, 4x4. I only pull hay about 2 or 3 days a year. 14k dump trailer about 10 times a year hauling sand, gravel, and dirt. Horse trailer about 2 times a year. The rest of the time, it is driven to town for parts, lumber, feed and other stuff. On the farm, it is my tool box. It is what I wanted and needed. Gas? yes, but I don't have to have any more hp and only drive a total of about 5,000 miles a year. Would I want diesel? Not for me. But I do think Ford lost their mind in the brakes on my truck. I understand that the front brakes on a 2014 diesel has larger brakes and therefore a larger tow due to the ability to stop. I like to go, but I love to stop.
 

Rowdy Redneck

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Jan 15, 2018
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Grundy
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Kioti DK40SE HST
I know most of you guys like diesel, but I like my 2014 ford f-250 gas, 4x4. I only pull hay about 2 or 3 days a year. 14k dump trailer about 10 times a year hauling sand, gravel, and dirt. Horse trailer about 2 times a year. The rest of the time, it is driven to town for parts, lumber, feed and other stuff. On the farm, it is my tool box. It is what I wanted and needed. Gas? yes, but I don't have to have any more hp and only drive a total of about 5,000 miles a year. Would I want diesel? Not for me. But I do think Ford lost their mind in the brakes on my truck. I understand that the front brakes on a 2014 diesel has larger brakes and therefore a larger tow due to the ability to stop. I like to go, but I love to stop.

What configuration is your truck and how many miles? Have you had any issues with it? I'm looking for a 2011-13 with the 6.2. Would prefer a 4x4 dually F350 flatbed single cab. But looking at everything from regular cab, extended, and crew F250 to utility bed and more. My uses are similar to yours and probably about 5k a year also, but a little more tilted towards towing. I think I will max at a 10k trailer though. Have been looking at some with the 5.4, but it seems like the 6.2 is worth holding out for. Also been looking at some bigger ones with the 6.8. I've mostly been looking at online auctions. Risky I know but the potential savings seem worth it.
 

nisaacs

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Snowflake, Arizona
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970 John Deere, 4320 John Deere, 995 Case/IH
So... whats up with your very odd power curve there? Most Cummins 5.9's will build power out nicely to around 3000 rpm. Yours only peaks at 1800 and goes down from there? 260 HP is nice for an old 12v, but the curve is odd. Just curious.

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Winter fuel?..Lol I think mostly because it is an industrial version, rated at 2500. It appears to defuel at about 2200.

Here is a similar 5.9 but in a Dodge D-250, 1991. First sheet is before injectors and the second one with 30 hp's.

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Hay Dude

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BANANA REPUBLIC OF AMERICA (BRA)
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Massey Ferguson & Kubota
Winter fuel?..Lol I think mostly because it is an industrial version, rated at 2500. It appears to defuel at about 2200.

Here is a similar 5.9 but in a Dodge D-250, 1991. First sheet is before injectors and the second one with 30 hp's.

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I had 2 JCB fast tracs with 5.9L/6.7L Cummins in them. One was 185HP and the other was 220HP.
Crazy low torque in them. They also had close to 40mph road speed. :D I was talking to a JCB dealer service tech and he told me the JCB Cummins versions that went in the Fast trac were a little different than the Dodge/Ram units. They speced out a heavier bedplate and bottom end for continuous lugging and high demand. My smaller Fast Trac has over 8,000 hours on the on the original 5.9. I think thats impressive.
Probably would have fared better with a Ford Ecoboost due to its larger crank surface area :shocked:
 

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DavesTractor

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Changes often!
I think those Fast Tracs are very cool. If only they had more crank surface area! Seriously though, a turned down 5.9/6.7L Cummins will last about forever.

As mentioned, I have several newer Ram 2500/3500 diesels for tractor delivery trucks, but owning a Raptor as my daily driver has given me a ton of respect for the twin-turbo 3.5l Ecoboost. I think each has its place. I won't tow heavy or often with the Raptor, and I won't jump the 3500 dually.
 

nisaacs

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Snowflake, Arizona
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970 John Deere, 4320 John Deere, 995 Case/IH
Dang! That is a bad azz tractor. Does it have both pto speeds or just 1000 rpm? I would also guess with 200 hp it will be the large pto 1000. My Case/IH 995 only has 104 hp with the 540/1000 small.
 
 
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