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We are trying to decide which zero turn is the best decision between the J.D. Z925a, Z930a or the Gravely Pro turn 200, Pro master?? Both mowers offer Kawasaki motors but the only difference is J.D. offers 27hp (925a), 29hp (930a) and gravely has the 31hp. Both are being compared with 60" decks. Any advise would be GREATLY appreciated between these to help make our decision!! Please Help!!

Thanks!!
 
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Just out of curiosity why aren't you considering the Kubota ZD300 series?
Are you looking for a gas or diesel engine, Air or liquid cooled?
 
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Just out of curiosity why aren't you considering the Kubota ZD300 series?
Are you looking for a gas or diesel engine, Air or liquid cooled?

I have to agree with KJINTF. I have a Grasshopper 223 (23 hp Pro Command Kohler) and that thing drinks gas like a frat boy drinks beer on Saturday night. I've regretted not buying diesel since the day I bought it. The diesel was about $1500.00 more, but according to research done by grasshopper, uses 1/2 the fuel. They say that a diesel will use 900 gallons less than a comparable gas mower over 1000 hours. That more than pays the difference in price. Also, the diesel is going to last a lot longer than a comparable gas burner.

Grasshopper Mower MaxTorque™ Diesel .

Grasshopper Mower


I do love my Grasshopper and it's made in the U.S.A. !!!! (Moundridge Kansas)
 
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I just bought a bad boy ZT with 50 inch deck. Maybe want to consider the Bad Boy ZT with 60 inch deck. Not sure what engine are available for it. Ive just been driving around sinds the grass insnt tall enough for me to cut. But the ride is very comfortable and the deck is very very strong.Good luck on your new Zero turn mower
 
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We are trying to decide which zero turn is the best decision between the J.D. Z925a, Z930a or the Gravely Pro turn 200, Pro master?? Both mowers offer Kawasaki motors but the only difference is J.D. offers 27hp (925a), 29hp (930a) and gravely has the 31hp. Both are being compared with 60" decks. Any advise would be GREATLY appreciated between these to help make our decision!! Please Help!!

Thanks!!
Back on topic of your question:

If you have an opportunity within your decision window, select the 29 HP with the digital fuel injection. Kawasaki is an excellent engine and the DFI gets much better fuel consumption efficiency over the carb.

For me, I'd have to go Gravely. JD just doesn't have the longterm muscle of life expectancy (in my experience and opinion) as does the other top brand. However, the Kawasaki engine is the lifeline of an operating machine, so there lies the core component. So please don't let my opinion of JD sway you. I'm all about the Kawasaki engines from using them over the years. Those things have been bullet-proof for me. Also consider the other specs, pump capacity for the steer wheels, bearing make, deck thickness / rugedness etc....
 
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We have a Kubota ZD326, and the diesel motor compared to the gas burner we had uses half or less of fuel and has twice the power of a gas burner.. So I definitely suggest a diesel whatever brand you get.
 
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I have a JD z910 and it's a fantastic mower, but I'll say this, if you do go with a JD, and want the mulch capability, then go ahead and get the M.O.D. deck for it. it won't cut worth a darned in tall grass with the mulch kit in place and it's a major pain to remove or install. the M.O.D. is alot nicer if you have the need to go between mulch and side discharge.
 
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We are trying to decide which zero turn is the best decision between the J.D. Z925a, Z930a or the Gravely Pro turn 200, Pro master?? Both mowers offer Kawasaki motors but the only difference is J.D. offers 27hp (925a), 29hp (930a) and gravely has the 31hp. Both are being compared with 60" decks. Any advise would be GREATLY appreciated between these to help make our decision!! Please Help!!

Thanks!!
Comparing a 27, 29 and 31 hp engine on a 60" deck is like comparing 1 ton dual rear diesel pickups pulling a canoe, all three engines will power a 60" deck very well. Hydraulic motors and pumps are probably Parkers in both of them, both have commercial grade frames, both should have a ROPS system. The only real difference in performance of most commercial mid mount mowers is the deck design and the seat (as in what ype of suspension system it has). Myself I have never been on either mower, however my dad has the Pro-Turn 160 with a 60" deck and to me it rides rough and is too monstrous to be manueverable. But I was VERY use to a 52" deck on a commercial Toro with a slightly smaller lower profile frame, so don't take my opinion too highly on this issue. The Gravely is built very well I will say, I think both mowrs will be very durable and should last a long time. Pick your price and which dealer is the best and go with it.

P.S. I bought a lightly used Grasshopper, rides much better than any mid mount I've ever been on.
 
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If I had it to do over again, I would go with the diesel over the gas.

I have an Exmark Lazer Z and it is an AWESOME grass cutting machine. But it guzzles gas.

The only down side to a zero turn mower is that it ONLY cuts grass. Although I did see someone adapt a snow plow to the front of his and he liked it. And I used to pull the small trailer around with my Exmark when I was in a pinch.

Greg
 
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I maintain mowers for a part time living. I have 2 commercial guys that I work for. One runs Ferris and one has Scag. Both are nice but the Ferris with the Kawasaki is second to none.

As far as the gas diesel thing you just about never see commercial guys running diesel around here. We have crunched the numbers and with 3 year trade in intervals the commercial guys do they can not make them break even running them 25 hours per week.

The Ferris for example burns 2.3 gallons per hour with a 37HP Kaw but can do 6 acres a hour easy and as much as 10 acres with a open field at the soccer lots they do, 72" cut.

That being said my uncle has a diesel Kubota and its nice. If I were to buy a unit for myself I would buy the Cat powered Diesel BadBoy. Its the best buy for the buck in my eyes, a guy who has been around theses things for 15 years.

By the way we have went though them all. Gravely, Dixon, Dynes, Toro, Ferris, Scag, ect. Ferris is tops around here.

Chris
 
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Totally true... but you've never seen a Kubota have you? :)

A friend has a big mid mount Kubota and the University I work at has several Kubota front decks but never looked them over much. What's so special about them?
 
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Guess everyone has a different set of criteria
I went with Kubota for my reasons
1 - Had experience with Kubota's and liked them
Have a small B series tractor for the past 15 years
2 - Shaft drive mower deck
Had a very poor experience with belt driven systems
3 - Diesel fuel
Usually a better built engine that will last a long time
4 - Liquid cooled engine
Less noise and usually lasts longer
5 - Easy to maintain
I do 100% of all maintenance and service for my equipment
6 - Other folks reviews
7 - Priced within my budget
 
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Our landscaping business has Kubota, Scag, and Exmark mowers. I can't speak to JD or some of the other brands--I think you'll find the commercial guys go with brands where they have strong dealer support. For example, there's almost no Ferris dealers here but they are reported to be an excellent mower.

Our ZTR is the Kubota ZD326--we chose this unit for several reasons, among them was that the deck adjustment is hydraulic and is quick and effortless compared to the Exmark. I would strongly urge you examine this on all models: how do you set the cutting height (an infrequent task) and how to you quickly raise and lower the deck to a parked position (a much more frequent operation as you load/unload or go over obstacles).

The ergos on the Kubota are excellent as is the ride--seat has multiple adjustments.

We use striping kits and the Kubota 2xx series was not available with striping, only the larger-frame 3xx series.

You can get a stamped (cheaper) deck or a HD deck for more $$. Be sure to compare what kind of deck you get.

It is VERY thrifty with fuel, which we can buy for off-road use and save compared to normal pump prices. However, diesel is still way more expensive than gas up here.

The Kubota is more difficult to change blades on than any other mower we have. Since we change the blades daily that's something of an issue.

The Kubota can be fitted with a hitch to pull simple lawn-tractor style attachments. I have not done this.

The Exmark can be fitted with a front-mounted spreader to put down fertilizer, ice melt, or sand. This unit won't fit the Kubota.

The fit and finish of the Kubotas is exactly what you would expect. The mechanical engineering aspects of our Exmark and Scag mowers, on the other hand, seems clumsy and amateurish in many details.
 
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I don't have experience with those mowers, but I do own a JD front mount pro mower (F725). It's an older model. One thing that I love about JD is the parts availability and Web site. I can look up parts schematics on the JD Web site for the mower, identify the specific part that I need, see if it's in stock at any of the local dealers and order online to pick up at the dealer or have it delivered to my home. I also own a Kubota tractor, so I like them as well, but their Web site doesn't hold a candle to JD. I can't imagine any other manufacturer has as big of dealer network and Web tools. It has come in handy several times for me.
 

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