Zip ties on new Kubotas?! )0:

[3930dave]

Yeah just saying that if you chose every little upgrade they could conceivably offer like special decals, brighter lights, two tone paint, paint chip protector, cooler, bla, bla, bla, your tractor would be 'cooler' but how much more effective for say 25% increase in base price.

I think alot of people take for granted the amount of thought and engineering when it comes to putting a quality product on the market. It would be easier if price wasn't an issue but it ones needs to find the sweet spot between design, durability, features and how much someone is willing to pay.

Yeah I should post a few pics but I am half way around the world in Singapore on business at the moment so I will try to remember when I return to snap a few and post.

Balancing price with actual product performance..... definitely a non-trivial task.

I'm not much for bling, but orange on orange would look cool. :thumbsup:

Have a good flight back; wishing you a quiet cabin so you can catch some ZZZZ's.

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

I use zip ties to build pens out of cattle panels quickly, put up hog pens quickly, and string barbed wire fast. A good solid 250 sq. ft. pen can be put up in 2 hours. I use a tool that puts 75 ft. lbs. on the tie and cuts it off square at the locking block. The tool costs a whole $8.00. The thing is any company that doesn't use these tools is pretty cheap and it makes me wonder what they made cheap that I can't see.

Interesting comment. Years back I used the high end tie guns. Today I'd expect a Panduit or T&B gun to work well.

In the last 20 or so years, the quality of basic Chinese-made hand tools has come up. Perhaps we are at the point where even an $8 tie gun is reasonably well made. For a good sized repetitive task like your pens, $8 on a tool is a no-brainer.

Rgds, D.

 

[dragoneggs]

Interesting comment. Years back I used the high end tie guns. Today I'd expect a Panduit or T&B gun to work well.

In the last 20 or so years, the quality of basic Chinese-made hand tools has come up. Perhaps we are at the point where even an $8 tie gun is reasonably well made. For a good sized repetitive task like your pens, $8 on a tool is a no-brainer.

Rgds, D.

Yes for the average Joe... $8 is a no brainer, but just to give you a little 'sticker shock', check out the prices of these professional cable tie installation tools. These are generally considered the best. Cable Tie Tension Tool | Cable Ties & Mounts | Categories

 

[3930dave]

Yes for the average Joe... $8 is a no brainer, but just to give you a little 'sticker shock', check out the prices of these professional cable tie installation tools. These are generally considered the best. Cable Tie Tension Tool | Cable Ties & Mounts | Categories

Thanks - didn't know the name... but unless I win a lottery.....

You know the customer base dragoneggs, and why they buy these high end tools. Things like tension repeatability and locking adjustments matter to mission critical applications (and sometimes even auto manufacturing), not so much when you are putting up snow fence, hog pens, or building parade floats !

Rgds, D.

 

[Loadstar]

Zip tie perfection

 

[3930dave]

Zip tie perfection

Not sure exactly what that is, but looks like something you didn't use ChinWah - Best Price for You !!!! ties on !

Nice build. :thumbsup:

Rgds, D.

 

[Loadstar]

Not sure exactly what that is, but looks like something you didn't use ChinWah - Best Price for You !!!! ties on !

Nice build. :thumbsup:

Rgds, D.

Not mine it's factory

 

[PapaPerk]

Thanks - didn't know the name... but unless I win a lottery.....

You know the customer base dragoneggs, and why they buy these high end tools. Things like tension repeatability and locking adjustments matter to mission critical applications (and sometimes even auto manufacturing), not so much when you are putting up snow fence, hog pens, or building parade floats !

Rgds, D.

Yeah it's a shame Kubota doesn't appear to be able to afford one!

 

[3930dave]

Yeah it's a shame Kubota doesn't appear to be able to afford one!

With close to 10,000 views of this thread in only 1 month , one of the 'bota owners here should forward this link to Kubota Corporate, Ag division.

" As a concerned Kubota tractor owner, I thought you should know......"

If they are smart, they will pay attention.

Rgds, D.

 

[PapaPerk]

With close to 10,000 views of this thread in only 1 month , one of the 'bota owners here should forward this link to Kubota Corporate, Ag division.

" As a concerned Kubota tractor owner, I thought you should know......"

If they are smart, they will pay attention.

Rgds, D.

I fully agree and that was my intention... To make them aware of bad quality...

I'll be sure to show them in person at the National Farm Machinery Show in Feb. $10 says the machines on their nice carpeted show area will have these lousy long cut zip ties on them too.