Pole Barn with no permit

[Highbeam]

Wetlands come and go. As such, any wetlands map is only a map of "potential" or past wetlands. The current permit that should have been purchased would have included an investigation as to whether or not there were any wetlands and if so, what the setbacks would be.

You can often encourage wetlands to go away or accidentally create one by digging a hole.

I don't see any value to wetlands that don't include standing water year round.

 

[ByronBob]

Is that two permits, one to remove and one to install?

Thats such BS, If your water heater implodes Friday evening, you'd have to wait until Monday to install the new one?

Only 1 for installation. They want to make sure someone doesn't install a gas heater and have it blow up later.

My town already had me down as having a finshed basement. So I took their advice and finshed it......

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I went down to the City offices and

1) Asked if any permits in the neighborhood.
Answer: None

2) Wetlands? Easy

Answer: Looked at the wetlands map for the area.

In my neighborhood, it takes a permit to sneeze.

Permit to re roof a house, to install a fence, you name it, a permit is required.

DNR is trumped by local laws in Wisconsin.

Must be 50 feet from any wetlands. Can disrupt within 30, but must build no closer than 50 feet.

I think this guy is toast.

I am curious why you care so much what your neighbor does? Is this barn going to be on your land? If not then why the concern?

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Only 1 for installation. They want to make sure someone doesn't install a gas heater and have it blow up later.

My town already had me down as having a finshed basement. So I took their advice and finshed it......

It isn't just about having one blow up. They want a someone who knows what they are doing install them so you do not have some fly by night incorrectly hook up the gas supply as well as the vent. The vent is their biggest concern now as so many people screw this part up it isn't funny.

What is nice is the high efficiency units now just require the 2" PVC out the wall so venting has become a lot easier if you get the right tank.

 

[Soundguy]

A permit to put up a fence? Dang.. I'll -NEVER- live in that state... how long have they been under communist rule? As long as kaliphornia?

soundguy

I went down to the City offices and

1) Asked if any permits in the neighborhood.
Answer: None

2) Wetlands? Easy

Answer: Looked at the wetlands map for the area.

In my neighborhood, it takes a permit to sneeze.

Permit to re roof a house, to install a fence, you name it, a permit is required.

DNR is trumped by local laws in Wisconsin.

Must be 50 feet from any wetlands. Can disrupt within 30, but must build no closer than 50 feet.

I think this guy is toast.

 

[Soundguy]

I am curious why you care so much what your neighbor does? Is this barn going to be on your land? If not then why the concern?

Some people like to be in other people's business is my guess.

I have a neighbor like that... makes for a real fun experience living next to them...

soundguy

 

[Robert_in_NY]

A permit to put up a fence? Dang.. I'll -NEVER- live in that state... how long have they been under communist rule? As long as kaliphornia?

soundguy

The permits for fences usually is for towns. They are designed to keep peoples fences away from roads and proper heights. There were people who wanted to put up 6' tall fences around their property so no one could see in but they put the fences up tight to roads making it hard for people to pull out of their driveways or intersections because they couldn't see thru the fence. So the permits are designed to help dictate setbacks and height restrictions in towns similar to the setbacks for houses near boundry lines.

 

[Soundguy]

Down here, we have what are called 'right of way's'.. Those setbacks IE.. from the road to where you can build on your property is a ROW... I thought it was common knowledge that you couldn't build in a ROW without specific permission? seems like some states micromanage way way too much.. guess that's how they justify those higher taxes and such

soundguy

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Down here, we have what are called 'right of way's'.. Those setbacks IE.. from the road to where you can build on your property is a ROW... I thought it was common knowledge that you couldn't build in a ROW without specific permission? seems like some states micromanage way way too much.. guess that's how they justify those higher taxes and such

soundguy

The problem comes in when you have people who say "I pay tax to the middle of the road so I own it". There are always people around here who try to keep the plows and towns from leaving the paved section of the road. They feel they own the shoulder and will put a fence out to it and complain when the snow plow removes it for them

A few people ruin it for everyone which is why we have lawyers and permits

 

[Soundguy]

Dang.. down here.. it's just common knowledge... there are a few that pull a 'northern' stunt like that.. however the county or city comes along.. removes whatever was built in the ROW, zoning writes the homeowner a fine, and then they backcharge them for being stupid..er.. for the removal of the materials in the row... if the owner doesn't pay the fine / bills. they attach their property and send them to court... in the end.. the people loose their house for being stupid.. or they pay .. it's usually a quick learning curve.. thus no need for a permit to breathe or anything weird like it sounds like the people in higher elevation need

As others have mentioned.. I've been in states where you didn't even need a permit to build a house... etc. guess there are still some 'free' areas o f the country left...

soundguy