Pole Barn with no permit

[LBrown59]

*Because if he can pull it off, then maybe I can pull it off!

If he gets caught, I want to see what they do to him. If they just fine him and slap his hand, and let him keep the barn, then that is great!!!! Assuming the cost ($$$) of the fines is not to great, then I would love to do the same.

*An interesting angle I hadn't considered.

 

[rcowan]

The county that we just moved from here in Arizona fines $40 for not getting a permit.
The fine is less than the cost of the permit.

 

[Tom_H]

If you think building codes and/or inspectors are any sort of guarantee against substandard materials or procedures, you are mistaken....codes/inspectors do not assure that codes are always met...way too many of those jobs are political.

In any field that is so geographically broad, and with each locale able to set its own standards and hire and supervise inspectors as it sees fit, I agree. There is not consistency. Still the intent is right. The solution is to make sure that those locales are doing things properly. In some cases, things work as they should. If inspectors certify a house that is substandard, a second generation owner has legal recourse against the party at fault. I will agree with you that there are places where code is not met due to incompetent inspectors. Some doctors are incompetent, but I would not call for eliminating doctors altogether from society.

Regarding the mortgage situation, your response is a dramatic oversimplification, but any clarification would be as political as your initial claim, and the rules here prohibit that.

Sorry, I just don't agree, and if my statements were political as you say, the moderators would have removed them. They haven't.

 

[Soundguy]

In my experience, in the areas I have been, way too many of those jobs are political. .

That's exactly the way it is here... the inspector thing is 'who ya know, as to whether it gets passed.'.. etc.

Worst part is, is you can have a 1st inspection pass, and then another inspector comes out for the final.. and fails you on something that was checked on the 1st inspection... go figure..

Had an issue come up on an ag well a while back.. an elec contractor to pull the permit for the pole for the well.. the well driller come in and make a hole inthe ground and set the pressure tank and pump, and just leave it at that.. just a hose bib connection.. no piping.. etc.. just a faucet on a 1' stub of pipe from the pressure tank... ( many ag wels sunk like this.. so the farmer has a garden hose available on site.. etc.. ).. Anyway.. 1st inspection passed.. final failed... as no 'plumber' was listed on the permit.. that 1' of pipe with a faucet needed a plummer.... wel driller was livid.. they sink agg wells all the time like that in 3 different counties .. but this time they got a weird inspector.. etc..

soundguy

 

[rtimgray]

In my experience, the whole inspection thing is far more political than practical. The last time I had to have a plumbing project inspected, the inspector showed up to make sure that my line was 30 to 36 inches deep (it was). Of course, I had to come out of the meter box where the line is only 10 inches deep. I asked him why I had to put the line so deep, and he said it was to keep it from freezing. I asked why the water wouldn't freeze in the 10" deep meter box, and he just said that he had no jurisdiction over municipalities so they can do whatever they want. For what it's worth, I doubt the ground ever freezes more than an inch or two deep here at any time.

I'm not saying that the inspector was incompetent, but the rules that were being enforced are not based in reality, but based from politics (i.e. a strong plumbing lobbyist in the state capitol). There is no practical reason to bury water lines 36 inches deep in this part of the country (especially when the water lines feeding them are 10 inches deep.

I get that the idea of inspections is to protect the future inhabitants of a structure; it's just that the application of this is to uneven and subject to the whims of the inspector. I, however, do not have a better idea. I'm just glad that I don't have to have permits or inspections for anything else that I'm doing around the house.

Take care.

 

[schmism]

A permit to put up a fence? Dang.. I'll -NEVER- live in that state... how long have they been under communist rule? As long as kaliphornia?

soundguy

st louis city... neighbor HAD an existing picket fence, wanted to replace old wooden 4' tall picket fence, with new white 4' tall vinal picket fence.

required a permit.

required building inspector to come out and check each post hole to ensure it was more than 30" deep. (on a 4' picket fence) I sh*t you not, i helped dig the holes and watched him pear into all of them and spot check 3 with a tape. ben dover!

 

[Soundguy]

I'd pack and move out of there so fast my tire tracks would be on fire!.. would be like that seen int he back tot he future where the car dissappeared and there were just flaming tire tracks and spinning license plate inthe road!.. I'd be heading to a free country.. like america

soundguy

 

[Doc_Bob]

I re roofed my home. Needed a permit. All old shingles torn off (not required) and then 2 layers of ice shield placed (not required) then new shingles. A very nice job

Inspector came out after the job was done. Never left his running vehicle. Told us that some of the shingles were not laying flat and would have to be re nailed. I told him that generally it would take a few months for the shingles to lay flat as it was a new roof. It was as if he had never heard of such a thing! He grudgingly signed off but said he would come out next year to make sure the shingles were laying flat. He never returned.

Do you think the $200 dollar permit was worth it?
Bob

 

[mjarrels]

When I got my building permit for my garage, I had to step to the next counter for the electrical permit... questions after questions on how many electrical outlets I wanted... Maybe 6 or at the most 10... Permit issued that allows up to 20 outlets... Why did I have to spend all that time being asked how many for a 24 X 36 garage?

mark

 

[Doc_Bob]

... questions after questions on how many electrical outlets I wanted... Maybe 6 or at the most 10... Permit issued that allows up to 20 outlets... Why did I have to spend all that time being asked how many for a 24 X 36 garage?

mark

Charge by the question? minute?
Bob