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[kennyd]

Thanks Kenny.

What is it about the Pat's that requires a longer TL???

-Jer.

If you look at pictures of them, you will see that they pin onto the end of the draft arms, adding about 3" to 4" to the length. There is no parts added to the TL, it is still pinned onto the implement in the same matter as without the QH installed thus requiring the TL to be 3" to 4" longer.

The Land Pride, JD's I-Match, Speeco, and the Horrible Fright QH's all add the same distance to the lower draft arms as well as the TL.

 

[jinman]

Thanks Kenny.

What is it about the Pat's that requires a longer TL???

-Jer.

I'm not Kenny, but I can answer your question, and Kenny might want to add more. The Pat's system extends only the lower lift arms and does not extend the toplink. If you placed an extension adapter on your toplink, you would not need a longer one, but you would have to fabricate the extension. The easier way is to buy a longer toplink.

On the Speeco system. All 3 points of your hitch are extended. This negates the need for a longer toplink. Everything is extended equally and the geometry remains the same.

Hope this helps...

Edit: Oops! Didn't see that Kenny had already answered.

 

[Flatheadyoungin]

what are hydraulic side links used for? i'm thinking about a top link......evenually......carter looks like the deal

 

[kennyd]

what are hydraulic side links used for? i'm thinking about a top link......evenually......carter looks like the deal

Hydraulic side links (the "tilt" in a Top and Tilt setup) is used to angle a implement side-to-side (left and right) on the fly. Most handy with rear blades, box blades, and rakes. Unless you are doing a lot of grading type jobs, then you probably do not need it.

 

[kennyd]

Edit: Oops! Didn't see that Kenny had already answered.

Hey, it was only 2.5 hours before you replied...retirement getting to you already?

 

[jgrreed]

Thanks for the quick hitch answer guys, that makes perfect sense.

FYI to Mr. Flathead.... I've been doing a lot of research too and I'm going to go with just a hydraulic top link for now, don't think I need to be tilting anything that badly, and besides I only have one SCV on the back right now to run one extra cylinder, which will be for the TL. Almost everyone on this forum recommends Carter and Carter Machinery (CCM) for the hydraulic kit.

Does anyone know if the JD 4x20 series 3pt hitches have a float setting?? It doesn't depict one on the lever labels.

Thanks,

-Jer.

 

[kennyd]

Does anyone know if the JD 4x20 series 3pt hitches have a float setting?? It doesn't depict one on the lever labels.

The 3PH automatically "floats". There is no downpressure on the 3PH of most tractors. Try it for yourself...lower the 3PH all the way and you will be able to lift the arms by just pulling them.

 

[jgrreed]

Oh ya, that makes sense....... duh.....

Thanks,

-Jer.

 

[jgrreed]

Most of you likely have done this already, but FYI I went out and measured my 4720's top link fully retracted and extended. It was 19.5" retracted and 30" extended. When it was fully retracted my quick hitch was maybe at a 15 degree angle "toe backwards". When it was fully extended it was 30 - 40 degrees "toe forward". I dunno what function would ever need that much toe forward, so I'm going with the 18 - 26.5" CCM top link, thus giving me more useful toe backward (ie. to make dirt/snow/etc roll when blading), and less meaningless toe forward.

Can't wait to nudge that lever instead on getting off and spinning..... and spinning...... and spinning...... the manual TL!!! That's lazy I know, but so is a remote starter, but I'll likely do that too!!!

Just my thoughts.

-Jer.

 

[Flatheadyoungin]

on the tractor??

That's lazy I know, but so is a remote starter, but I'll likely do that too!!!

Just my thoughts.

-Jer.