Best Home Defense Rifle?

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   / Best Home Defense Rifle? #221  
From Mike Huckabee's new book

Our Founding Fathers, having endured the tyranny of the British Empire, wanted to guarantee our God-given liberties. They devised our three branches of government and our system of checks and balances. But they were still concened that the system could fail and that we could face a new tryanny from our own government. They wanted us to be able to defend ourselves, and that's why they gave us the Second Amendment. They knew that a government facing an armed populace was less likely to take away peoples' rights, while an unarmend population would be defenseless against such encroachment. As Ronal Reagan reminded us, "Freedom is never more than one gereration away from extinction."
 
   / Best Home Defense Rifle? #222  
James bond never did anything for me, Bronson or Norris either.

Clint Eastwood hands down, maybe not the toughest/meanest but definitely the coolest. "Blondie" from The good, the bad, and the ugly. One of my faves.
JB.

As far as the thread hijacking, I don't know the jurys still out on that--Yea Right!

The Duke, John Wayne. THE MAN.
 
   / Best Home Defense Rifle? #223  
The Duke, John Wayne. THE MAN.

That is for sure and if you can get one of his "Six Shooters" that goes for at least 10 shots without reloading you gotta be a winner!:D:D
 
   / Best Home Defense Rifle? #224  
Enjoy...This pretty much says it all for me...
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WHY THE GUN IS CIVILIZATION

By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

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Human beings only have two ways to deal with one
another: reason and force. If you want me to do
something for you, you have a choice of either
convincing me via argument, or force me to do
your bidding under threat of force. Every human
interaction falls into one of those two
categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people
exclusively interact through persuasion. Force
has no place as a valid method of social
interaction, and the only thing that removes
force from the menu is the personal firearm, as
paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by
force. You have to use reason and try to persuade
me, because I have a way to negate your threat or
employment of force. The gun is the only personal
weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal
footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old
retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger,
and a single gay guy on equal footing with a
carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun
removes the disparity in physical strength, size,
or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun
as the source of bad force equations. These are
the people who think that we'd be more civilized
if all guns were removed from society, because a
firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to
do his job. That, of course, is only true if the
mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed
either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has
no validity when most of a mugger's potential
marks are armed. People who argue for the banning
of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the
strong, and the many, and that's the exact
opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even
an armed one, can only make a successful living
in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes
confrontations lethal that otherwise would only
result in injury. This argument is fallacious in
several ways. Without guns involved,
confrontations are won by the physically superior
party inflicting overwhelming injury on the
loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks,
or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too
much TV, where people take beatings and come out
of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that
the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker
defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are
armed, the field is level. The gun is the only
weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an
octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight
lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a
force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am
looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to
be left alone. The gun at my side means that I
cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry
it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me
to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of
those who would interact with me through reason,
only the actions of those who would do so by
force. It removes force from the equation...and
that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
 
   / Best Home Defense Rifle? #225  
I think if you were going to arm yourself against your own government you may as well lay down your weapons and come along to the de-lousing showers with the rest of us . With armed forces outside your home , intent on "aquiring" you , there would not be much hope .

In regards to people arming themselves . I think if guns were as plentyfull as mobile phones , it would be an easy source of guns for the bad guys . Instead of car jackings , you would have gun jackings . If a mugger grabbed you or a woman or a weaker target , even with a knife or a needle and said give me your gun . What would you do ? He's got the drop on you , you may as well be unarmed and now he's not .
 
   / Best Home Defense Rifle? #226  
But if everyone has a gun, then the military might not be as quick to jump on you, as they would if you were the only one with a gun.
David from jax

A "Stakeout" is my favorite home defense weapon. Basically an Ithaca model 37 that came from the factory with a pistol grip and a 12" barrel. Class III AOW, so it isn't for everyone (due to individual states politics), but it does a lot more damage than a ruger mini 14 (and I have several of those, along with a Ruger AC-556).
I demonstrated the difference to my wife during one target shooting trip, and it made a believer out of her. It doesn't have the range of the rifle, but if they are fleeing, you might be in hot water if you shoot them in the back...
David from jax
 
   / Best Home Defense Rifle? #227  
I think if you were going to arm yourself against your own government you may as well lay down your weapons and come along to the de-lousing showers with the rest of us . With armed forces outside your home , intent on "aquiring" you , there would not be much hope .

I don't think that will happen here. There are too many people that believe it is their right to keep a firearm. EVERY family that I have been acquainted with since growing up has at least one gun in their home. Most have multiple guns. My guess is, if the government ever made it illegal to own a gun and then tried to collect them, there would be mass chaos and lots and lots of dead people.

... I think if guns were as plentyfull as mobile phones , ....
They already are, at least in people's homes.

Have you ever been over here in the U.S.? Just curious.
 
   / Best Home Defense Rifle? #228  
That is for sure and if you can get one of his "Six Shooters" that goes for at least 10 shots without reloading you gotta be a winner!:D:D

Egon,

You are on the right track to keep this thread on topic. :D

Robert does not needs The Duke's Six Shooters he needs his double barreled shot guns. The Duke could walk in a saloon, fire off both barrels and just clear out the huge room with two rounds! :eek: Bad guys falling dead all over the place. Kinda sorta aim in the bad guys direction, fire from the hip, and ONLY the black hats are dead and gone.

THAT is what is needed for a Home Defense Rifle. Well, ok, its a shot gun but not a rifle but its close to on topic. :D:D:D:D:D

Later,
Dan
 
   / Best Home Defense Rifle? #229  
I think if you were going to arm yourself against your own government you may as well lay down your weapons and come along to the de-lousing showers with the rest of us . With armed forces outside your home , intent on "aquiring" you , there would not be much hope ..

Don't worry.. i completely understand that line of thinking coming from someone with almost -0- gun rights.

In regards to people arming themselves . I think if guns were as plentyfull as mobile phones , it would be an easy source of guns for the bad guys . Instead of car jackings , you would have gun jackings . If a mugger grabbed you or a woman or a weaker target , even with a knife or a needle and said give me your gun . What would you do ? He's got the drop on you , you may as well be unarmed and now he's not .

Hasn't happened like that yet enmasse in CCW states. And if a mugger wants my gun.. I may get stabbed.. but he'l get the gun.. bullets first.

I'll take a knife wound to a gunshot wound -any- day.

And i'll take my chances with freedom vs death and tyranny -any- day as well. It's what america was built on... Live free or die.

soundguy
 
   / Best Home Defense Rifle? #230  
They already are, at least in people's homes.

Have you ever been over here in the U.S.? Just curious.

IMHO.. for people with severly restricted or no gun rights.. it's hard for them to imagine that the average gun owner over here just doesn't own one single gun.. yet instead.. may own 3-6 or a dozen or 3 dozen or more..

soundguy
 
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