Best Home Defense Rifle?

[Tororider]

Mate,

Let me reiterate, I am a peace-loving individual, who doesn't want ANY friction from anyone. Nobody prays for peace and harmony more than a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine. In the same spirit, I don't start trouble or bother anyone. I am good to my family, my friends, my neighbors and society as a whole. I help little ole ladies cross the street, but I have no qualms about defending my family and loved ones to the death if need be. If that instinct isn't in you and you wouldn't do that, I feel really sorry for those who look to you as a leader of your family, father or protector!

Podunk

I second that sentiment exactly.

Wayne County Hose,
Just to be clear I was being sarcastic. I always forget that sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet. My mistake.

 

[Sigarms]

The absolute first rule of self defense is avoidance

Three thoughts come to mind.

1. One reason to secure the general area that you occupy (along with loved ones).

2. Sometimes firearms give a person a false feeling of "superiority".

3. The mind is more useful than a gun.

All that said, this is what's laying next to the bed every night. Short and sweet.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

I second that sentiment exactly.

Wayne County Hose,
Just to be clear I was being sarcastic. I always forget that sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet. My mistake.

Maybe next time a couple smiley faces next to it?

 

[DocHeb]

Ever heard of Nuclear disarmament ? Even the big guys know that everyone having nukes does not make it a safer world .

Are there nuclear arms that we can carry concealed? Some might be interested.

Actually, this thread has reached a lot of posts without much rancor, and this thread hasn't gotten locked...yet. We are different people in different places. I've never been to Australia, and you never replied (or maybe I missed it) about your experiences with the USA. In general, all I know about Australia is what the media here wants us to know, and I suspect it is reciprocated by your media in regards to the "Wild West, Gun Totin USA". I'm sure both our medias, and both our governments, have agendas.

 

[MossRoad]

O.K. folks. Settle down a tad and let's try to get back to the original discussion of the best home defense rifle....

Have we concluded that a rifle is not a good home defense weapon at all and most would prefer shotgun or handgun?

Or have we decided to answer the original question as written, like, I'm going to use a rifle for home defense, so don't try to talk me out of it, just tell me which rifle you think is the best one for home defense.

 

[Soundguy]

There are some scary people in the world , no wonder they want too take your guns away . The Dirty Harry talk from a couple of you and the fact that some of you would KILL someone because they took your lawnmower is doing nothing for your cause . I think i would be more scared of what one of you may do with your gun if i cut you off at the lights , more so than the 1000-1 chance a mugger wanted my wallet . Soundguy , i'd like to meet you one day and see if you'd still talk down too me without your computor .

I agree with podunk.. I think I missed the dirty harry kill a guy for a lawnmower message..can you point it out.? In any case.. I'm not in favor of gratitous violence.. I consider myself a well armed pacifist... resorting to lethal force as a last means of self defense/defense of others, if needed.

I'm not talking down to you.. I said i understand your point of view, based upon your comments coming from someone who lives in an area with no, or severely restricted gun rights.. anything you read into that statement other than what I said verbatum is your problem.. not mine...and besides...from the tone of your comment(s).. I'd say that you probably -would not- want to confront me.. as you sound hostile.. unprovoked hostility in america can 'trigger' self defense ... i'm not afraid to use a weapon that I am also not afraid to leaglly carry on my person, for lawful self defense purposes.

Hanging out in bars and beating up people is the thing I try to avoid.... it's easy to go looking for a problem.. its not as easy to try to avoid the problems..

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

A handgun instructor mentioned something to that effect when i was qualifying on the range. also said something like the average self defense shooting happened within something like 6-10' or less...

soundguy

Ever hear of the FBI's 21' rule? Basically, an agile man within 21' of you can cover the ground and get to you before you can unholster and fire accurately. Unless you are exceptional at handling a weapon. It is a lot different doing it at the range than with a lunatic bearing down on you.

I think a lot of this is a moot point. The absolute first rule of self defense is avoidance. Don't put yourself in the situation in the first place. Your home should have an early warning device of some kind, an alarm, a dog, whatever. If he perpetrator is outside my home, let the police deal with it. I've got multiple black belts and ugly black weapons too. I can defend myself better than 99% of the population. But, I'm not going out there. I don't know what he's carrying or how many of them there are. People also shouldn't carry unless they are ready, willing, and able to use it. Little old ladies probably shouldn't carry unless they have the ability and willingness to use their weapon. Most cases like this, the weapon gets used against them. You get stabbed in a bar at 1 am? Well you disabled your thought pattern with a drug in a place where everyone else did too. What did you expect to happen? Yes, sometimes it can't be avoided and you can't foresee every situation, but most of these encounters could easily be avoided with a little common sense.

Give peace a chance? Please. It's been tried the world over and failed everytime. Martial arts were developed by the most peace loving people the world has ever seen, Buddhist monks. Why? Because they gave peace a chance and it failed. Now if you can get a monk to fight, there's a problem. The only time in history when there has been peace is when your enemy knew you could kick his butt all over the planet.

Of course, this is all just my humble opinion.

 

[Soundguy]

There are some scary people in the world , no wonder they want too take your guns away . The Dirty Harry talk from a couple of you and the fact that some of you would KILL someone because they took your lawnmower is doing nothing for your cause . I think i would be more scared of what one of you may do with your gun if i cut you off at the lights , more so than the 1000-1 chance a mugger wanted my wallet . .

I'm not sure how it works out in disarmed countries... but the concept that reducing the number of legally owned guns in the hands of responsible citizens by regulation does not also reduce crime. it only prevents people from defending themselves. Now.. if all the bad guys urned in their guns when new law was passed.. we might have something to talk about.

No one wories about law enforcement people with guns. similarly there should be little worry of people with ccw carrying guns. stitistics show the are a pretty law abiding bunch. it's the baddies with guns that people need to worry about. Gun violence doesn't come from the lawfull use of a gun.. it comes frm the unlawfull use of a gun...

soundguy

 

[Podunkadunk]

I'm a chucklehead and my math sucks! I'm surprised noone caught it, or if you did, I appreciate not being humiliated even further than I already am. I stated on either my last of second to last post that "Brave men....300 years ago." I was talking about the Revolutionary War with the British. Anyhow, should have been 230+ years...not 300. My bad, I know history well...just can't do math worth a darn! Now that that's out of the way, I feel better!

MossRoad,
I've given my spiel on my choice of inside the home and outside the home rifle selection. Don't have a lot to add. I haven't seen the original poster posting here in a while. I guess the thread has gone a complete 180 out from it's original vector. It's all good. The topic got a little spicy, but not heated. BZ to all who kept their tempers under wraps. We all step on toes every now and then, in life and on the 'net in forums.

Podunk

Oh, got to share the message I saw recently on a bumper sticker. It stated something to the effect of:
If guns kill people, then Oprah's fork made her fat.

I almost wrecked.

 

[czechsonofagun]

So save your implications of cowardice . If you spent as much time lobbying your government to disarm the crooks as you do lobbying for guns for all , it would be a better world for all of us . Ever heard of Nuclear disarmament ? Even the big guys know that everyone having nukes does not make it a safer world .

You have absolutely no clue what your are talking about. The communistic government I lived under spared no effort to disarm citizen good or crooks. Actually they went further, they made sure they kill or destroy those who would rise against it. Did it take guns from hands of the bad guys? Not at all. Did it make it better world for all of us? Nope and you would know it too if you just did a minimum of reading before making statements like this. Limiting freedom never ever helped the civilization - but it is kind of hard to see it from your already limited world.