Ford & IH finalize diesel divorce

[John Deere 3520]

And wasnt the 6.9 a 460block turned into a diesel by international???

 

[Ryan03]

Great, I already have to pee in a bottle at work for CDL testing, And someday I will also have to do the same to drive my new truck. I will begin drinking plenty of liquids now so I will be ready for this change when I buy one in 10 years

 

[powerstroke444e]

I still don't get how the 7.3 to this day gets better mileage and has the power to handle anything that should or shouldn't be pulled with a pickup, but they (ford) keeps wanting to make more power and with less displacement, which takes more fuel. How is that making the envoriment or my pocket book any better??? Guess thats why I have an old 7.3L not a new one.

 

[Ryan03]

The general public thinks they need 400hp and 700 lb ft in a pickup to tow their jet ski to the boat ramp. Not only do horses like to eat, but they also require stronger drivetrain components, bigger springs, more cooling, bigger brakes, all that equals more weight, combined with more power equals feed me often.

 

[John Deere 3520]

Thank you for chiming in with that the 7.3 has had the best MPGs of any diesel they have had in there trucks the new 6.4 might get better if it didnt have a DPF but not from the factory it dont kind of stupid if you ask me..

 

[powerstroke444e]

The general public thinks they need 400hp and 700 lb ft in a pickup to tow their jet ski to the boat ramp. Not only do horses like to eat, but they also require stronger drivetrain components, bigger springs, more cooling, bigger brakes, all that equals more weight, combined with more power equals feed me often.

Lord only knows what I would try to pull with something that has that kind of hp. I find the old 7.3L has more hp than brakes and springs, and the newer truck are even worse they have more hp but are still limited by the springs tires and brakes.
In IL you can only go 55mph and I don't like trying to find out how much fuel I can use on every trip.

 

[DieselPower]

Well let me tell everyone something Im not a fan of the EPA nor alot of people for that manner,but were going to have to live with it my dad has a LMM dmax with no DPF and it works great worked great with the DPF but it was so easy to take off so why not..

Why not, well it's illegal for a start and can carry a rather hefty federal as well as state fines for tampering with the pollution control system. Secondly, do you enjoy polluting the environment?

Unfortunately the diesel industry is in it's infancy when it comes to emissions control systems. Much like the gas engine industry went through years ago. Anyone who has ever owned or worked on a mid 80's medium duty Chevy with a 366 in it knows what I'm talking about. Open the hood and it's a maze of vacuum hoses and pumps. The medium duty trucks were 2 times as bad as the automotive counterparts because they actually had 2 smog pump systems, gives me the chills just thinking about working on one. Fast forward 20+ years and gasoline engines emissions systems have become much easier to work on and much more efficient. I figure it will be a while until technology finally catch's up with the diesel engine industry just like it did with gasoline industry. Their called growing "pains" for a reason.

 

[DieselPower]

And wasnt the 6.9 a 460block turned into a diesel by international???

Nope, two completely different engines. Actually if you look at the water passage setup of the 6.9/7.3 engines it looks more like some of the 70's International gasoline engines in the 400+ CI range. Don't forget International made gasoline engines for decades.

 

[John Deere 3520]

Well i guess i was told false info on the 6.9, and PA were we live dont check Emmissons yet and when they do we will put it back on.. If you dont think its cool to see some black smoke come out once in a while your weird.. LOL

 

[Builder]

Well i guess i was told false info on the 6.9, and PA were we live dont check Emmissons yet and when they do we will put it back on.. If you dont think its cool to see some black smoke come out once in a while your weird.. LOL

While it is true that PA doesn't have state emmissions inspections for diesels, it is a federal offense to tamper with a pollution control device. The EPA is a federal agency who's laws cover all 50 states, not just PA.

So even if there's no emissions inspection here, you can still get in a heck of a lot of trouble if the right person finds you have removed a DPF.

Probably the best scenario for that is if you got pulled over by MVCE police while driving through in a neighboring state that does have diesel emissions.