How to find septic lines?

[2manyrocks]

There's probably an unconscious response to not want to find septic lines because of what is in them.

 

[jimmer2880]

Some things simply cannot be learned from reading. From everything I have read on the subject would not have "shown" me the proper way to hold the rods.

I dont' blame you for not believing. I don't believe in many things (but not all) that science hasn't been able to explain. When you get a chance to learn from someone who can do it, I urge you to give it another try.

 

[jimmer2880]

With modern equipment you could not find the pipes? So, when all else fails, this guy finds some of them, and you say that's proof it does not work?

Interesting way of interpreting that experience.

Is there anything other than abstinence that works 100% of the time?

I agree. If they couldn't be found by other means, just finding one of them would have proven that it works better than "modern equipment"

 

[DonnieP]

I had a couple of people dowse water for me; both used a crotch of apple tree branch. One gentleman told me any wood would work for him, but apple worked best. I look after an old cemetery and have to mark where to dig the graves. Lots of times I use the bent wire method to find where people are buried to mark where to dig a grave (or to find where not to dig). It is true, sometimes you can tell by the lay of the ground where the graves are, but lots of times you can稚. This past summer I was marking a grave for a lady who had past away and whose husband passed away in 1955 so his grave wasn稚 obvious. When I went to work with the divining rod and found two bodies buried in the lot. Later on I mentioned this to an older person in the community and they told me they had a baby that died and was buried in the lot and the name was never put on the headstone! I can find pipes; the wire reacts differently for pipes and graves. For a pipe the wires will turn ninety degrees inward, where as with a grave they will only turn about 45 degrees and make an X. I use two coat hangers, cut the hook ends off, and bend them to an L shape with about 6 inches for the short part and 18 inches for the long part. Hold the short piece in each of your fists, and have that part pointed straight down to the ground. Hold your elbows in close to your body and your forearms parallel to the ground and parallel to each other. Walk around with the two wires pointed straight out in front of you and when you walk over the pipe the two wires will swing inwards.

 

[PA hayseed]

I had a couple of people dowse water for me; both used a crotch of apple tree branch. One gentleman told me any wood would work for him, but apple worked best. I look after an old cemetery and have to mark where to dig the graves. Lots of times I use the bent wire method to find where people are buried to mark where to dig a grave (or to find where not to dig). It is true, sometimes you can tell by the lay of the ground where the graves are, but lots of times you can稚. This past summer I was marking a grave for a lady who had past away and whose husband passed away in 1955 so his grave wasn稚 obvious. When I went to work with the divining rod and found two bodies buried in the lot. Later on I mentioned this to an older person in the community and they told me they had a baby that died and was buried in the lot and the name was never put on the headstone! I can find pipes; the wire reacts differently for pipes and graves. For a pipe the wires will turn ninety degrees inward, where as with a grave they will only turn about 45 degrees and make an X. I use two coat hangers, cut the hook ends off, and bend them to an L shape with about 6 inches for the short part and 18 inches for the long part. Hold the short piece in each of your fists, and have that part pointed straight down to the ground. Hold your elbows in close to your body and your forearms parallel to the ground and parallel to each other. Walk around with the two wires pointed straight out in front of you and when you walk over the pipe the two wires will swing inwards.

Hmmm. When I was in the Army in a long range surveillance unit, they taught us this trick to find water. I actually forgot all about it, then I was having a cistern pumped out and couldn't find the cap (made from a slab of sandstone) the old guy on the tank grabbed his rods and found it in a minute. Now this may have never been scientifically PROVEN, but neither is the big bang theory, and countless other theories that are taught in renowned institutions of higher learning. Proving something, and positing something are extremely different. How many years did it take to prove the earth wasn't flat? How long did it take to mathematically prove that 1+1 = 2. The last I heard, the formula to prove 1+1=2 took 26 pages.

I would also imagine that this diving may be more art than science. I would say the same is true of running a FEL on a tractor. A certain amount of experience, maybe some prior teaching, and some knowledge, and varying pieces of equipment.

Not that it matters to anyone, but our forefathers did incredible things without hydraulics, computers, and some wizard in an ivy league school saying it is ok. In some ways our learning systems have devolved, and wisdom is no longer gathered, just facts, figures, and various tidbits of information.

 

[Leejohn]

I dowsed one time with a Y of a tree and well never well do it again!!! It would only point to ugly girls and I ended up with one. I guess it was a ugly stick.

 

[ray66v]

Hmmm. When I was in the Army in a long range surveillance unit, they taught us this trick to find water. I actually forgot all about it, then I was having a cistern pumped out and couldn't find the cap (made from a slab of sandstone) the old guy on the tank grabbed his rods and found it in a minute. Now this may have never been scientifically PROVEN, but neither is the big bang theory, and countless other theories that are taught in renowned institutions of higher learning. Proving something, and positing something are extremely different. How many years did it take to prove the earth wasn't flat? How long did it take to mathematically prove that 1+1 = 2. The last I heard, the formula to prove 1+1=2 took 26 pages.

I would also imagine that this diving may be more art than science. I would say the same is true of running a FEL on a tractor. A certain amount of experience, maybe some prior teaching, and some knowledge, and varying pieces of equipment.

Well said.

The actual answer on the 1+1 question: In 1910 Russel, and Whitehead proved 1+1=2, in 379 pages. The documents have been scanned, and are now available on line.

 

[J_J]

As anyone can see, the Witching, Dowsing, Devining is a gift, and if you have it, use it, but don't lie to people and guarntee that it works with any precision.

It seems like this gift has gone from Moses finding water to locating dead people.

Something is very very wrong here.

 

[RonMar]

I wished you lived closer JJ, I would love to come and find all your sprinkler lines and teach you how to do it. Those who can do it, would not try and make any money doing it, as we all know it is so simple a child can do it, so there is no market in it

 

[J_J]

I wished you lived closer JJ, I would love to come and find all your sprinkler lines and teach you how to do it. Those who can do it, would not try and make any money doing it, as we all know it is so simple a child can do it, so there is no market in it

Ron,

I would like that very much, but you would have to follow some rules, like this.

You would have to be blindfolded before you came on the property's, You bring your own stick or rods. I will walk you around the complete property and when the stick or rod start to do their magic, I will mark the ground with marker spray, and you have to tell me what it is you have found. The reason for this is simple, because eyeball observation can indicate many things. I will not give you any clue what side of the house the septic system is located, I don't want you to see the sprinkler valve boxes or sprinkler heads, or the wiring for the house. I don't believe I have any dead bodies on my property, but if you find them, don't tell me about it.

I also promise to video tape the complete process.