quarencia
Silver Member
I can't believe intelligent human beings have to keep wasting their time putting down ridiculous and ignorant claims like water 4 gas. That being said, I'll waste some time here as well. All that the naysayers have said here is absolutely correct. There isn't much more to add without doing a lot of chemistry math to spew numbers on something that isn't worth the time. It wouldn't matter anyway. I've seen other discussions where this has been done and the people who believe either aren't willing to hear the truth or aren't capable of understanding it.
I will add one comment for the believers to think about. If hydrogen was a magic catalyst to break long chain hydrocarbons down into shorter ones, don't you think the oil companies would have invested in this long ago. The refinement process to get crude oil to usable fuels like gasoline, diesel, or kerosene works by breaking long chain hydrocarbons into shorter ones. These processes use catalysts and very high temperature and pressure vessels (akin to the combustion chamber on your car) to progressively break the longer chains into shorter ones.
Imagine how much more profit the oil companies could make if they would only install a water 4 gas system on their stacks and create hydrogen to make gas from crude oil for nothing. Then they would make gas for free and we could drive our cars for free, all thanks to water 4 gas. he-double-L, if we used hydrogen from electrolysis at the refineries and in our cars, we could produce more energy than we get from the original crude, use that energy to produce synthetic crude and pump it back into the ground for future generations to use when they finally learn that water 4 gas won't work.
I'm betting we'll see the believers on a list of Darwin Award winners before we see the inventors with Nobel prizes. If anyone wants to run a book on that line, let me know. I want some of that action. While I don't have the lack of morals necessary to sell water 4 gas, I certainly have enough entrepreneurial spirit to bet on their failure.
If you can't tell, the very fact that we have to have this discussion really bleeps me off.
For those of you that do believe in these systems, don't get me wrong. I encourage you to go out and try them out. Spend your money so someone can tell you how to make something that won't work. Then spend more of your money building something that will not work. This is a far better economic stimulus package than congress is ever going to come up with!
For the rest of us, we're busy looking into buying stock in mason jar companies.
I will add one comment for the believers to think about. If hydrogen was a magic catalyst to break long chain hydrocarbons down into shorter ones, don't you think the oil companies would have invested in this long ago. The refinement process to get crude oil to usable fuels like gasoline, diesel, or kerosene works by breaking long chain hydrocarbons into shorter ones. These processes use catalysts and very high temperature and pressure vessels (akin to the combustion chamber on your car) to progressively break the longer chains into shorter ones.
Imagine how much more profit the oil companies could make if they would only install a water 4 gas system on their stacks and create hydrogen to make gas from crude oil for nothing. Then they would make gas for free and we could drive our cars for free, all thanks to water 4 gas. he-double-L, if we used hydrogen from electrolysis at the refineries and in our cars, we could produce more energy than we get from the original crude, use that energy to produce synthetic crude and pump it back into the ground for future generations to use when they finally learn that water 4 gas won't work.
I'm betting we'll see the believers on a list of Darwin Award winners before we see the inventors with Nobel prizes. If anyone wants to run a book on that line, let me know. I want some of that action. While I don't have the lack of morals necessary to sell water 4 gas, I certainly have enough entrepreneurial spirit to bet on their failure.
If you can't tell, the very fact that we have to have this discussion really bleeps me off.
For those of you that do believe in these systems, don't get me wrong. I encourage you to go out and try them out. Spend your money so someone can tell you how to make something that won't work. Then spend more of your money building something that will not work. This is a far better economic stimulus package than congress is ever going to come up with!
For the rest of us, we're busy looking into buying stock in mason jar companies.
