Building a Shop

Huskerplowboy · Jul 10, 2009

Rain rain go away!

We've had 3.5" of rain this week, so the building site is good and muddy. Had 1.5" Tuesday and then we got another 2" last night and this morning. So much for July being hot and dry...

Forecast is looking slightly better, supposed to be dry tomorrow and Sunday and Monday until late. Might be able to get the materials delivered without having to tow their truck out on Monday and might have a shot to get a skid loader rented Monday mid-morning and get the holes in the ground before the next round of rain Tuesday. I have some cheap OSB that I plan to cut up and cover the holes with to keep at least some of the rain out of them if it comes before I fill them with poles... Maybe by mid-week I'll have some actual progress to report...

mjncad · Jul 11, 2009

Duffster said:
Hmmmmm I must not undestand the symbols

Sorry Duffster...the programmer in me recalls using the ^ symbol to indicate power in some programming languages and in plain text communications where superscript isn't supported.

wroughtn_harv · Jul 12, 2009

You can pump the water out of the holes. My fence post holes are almost four feet deet. When it's raining and I've got holes open I build a little dam around the holes. If the water is still in the holes when I get ready to set posts I use a hand pump you can get at any good landscaper's supply house for getting water out of pits when repairing sprinkler lines. They work great.

Everyone I know that builds metal buildings here in Texas does the walls first.

mikefromnh · Jul 12, 2009

Don't you all remember geometry class? and pythagoreans theorem:

In any right triangle, the area of the square whose side is the hypotenuse (the side opposite the right angle) is equal to the sum of the areas of the squares whose sides are the two legs (the two sides that meet at a right angle).

(aa)(bb)=(cc)
where a =3 b= 4
3*3 = 9 4*4 = 16
9+16 = 25
c squared = 25
c = 5

Pythagorean Theorem and its many proofs from Interactive Mathematics Miscellany and Puzzles

Duffster · Jul 12, 2009

mikefromnh said:
Don't you all remember geometry class? and pythagoreans theorem:

In any right triangle, the area of the square whose side is the hypotenuse (the side opposite the right angle) is equal to the sum of the areas of the squares whose sides are the two legs (the two sides that meet at a right angle).

(aa)(bb)=(cc)
where a =3 b= 4
3*3 = 9 4*4 = 16
9+16 = 25
c squared = 25
c = 5

Pythagorean Theorem and its many proofs from Interactive Mathematics Miscellany and Puzzles

Obviously several of us do.

mjncad · Jul 13, 2009

My geometry teacher was worthless. My algebra teacher was great.

Huskerplowboy · Jul 13, 2009

The shop materials arrived this morning around 9:30. Left the camera in the truck, so no pics yet. Waiting on a call back from the rental place to see if the 1 skid loader they had sitting around this morning will be ready to go this afternoon or if I'll have to wait til Thursday.

The materials package came with concrete footings, so I guess now I have some spares to use on the deck for the new house or to block up things. The spec sheet mentions "concrete footings provided by others" or something, so I had assumed I'd need to get my own. At least the ones from Menards are under $4 each, so I'm not out a ton of cash.

The steel looked ok, no signs of damage. The materials came out on a tilt-bed straight truck, so they just slid it off rather than lifting off with forks. A little tougher on the lumber, but avoids another chance of dinging up the steel with forks.

Huskerplowboy · Jul 13, 2009

Some other things I noticed with the materials:

- Came with screws and nails for at least all of the steel, need to look at the pile again to see if they also sent the framing nails.

- The soffit panels for the overhangs come pre-cut to length and color-matched, so less work there. Some of the other DIY kits I'd looked at would have sent 10-20' lengths of soffit that would have to be cut into the 50,000 sections (or however many pieces you'd need)

- The "contractors pack" of plans looks to be pretty helpful, has lots of drawings and diagrams showing how the various joints and things go together, number of nails and size of nails, etc. Some of the stuff also provides a "nail gun option" and lists how many 3 1/2" air nailer nails to use in place of the hand-nailed larger/longer nails.

On the minus side, The materials are stacked with the trusses on top of the perlins and girts, and all the steel is on top of the columns. Good for shipping, not so helpful during construction with the last things I need on top...

jayste · Jul 13, 2009

Duffster said:
Obviously several of us do.

Thanks Duffster! I was gonna' but you beat me to it.

Duffster · Jul 13, 2009

Huskerplowboy said:
Some other things I noticed with the materials:

- Came with screws and nails for at least all of the steel, need to look at the pile again to see if they also sent the framing nails.

- The soffit panels for the overhangs come pre-cut to length and color-matched, so less work there. Some of the other DIY kits I'd looked at would have sent 10-20' lengths of soffit that would have to be cut into the 50,000 sections (or however many pieces you'd need)

- The "contractors pack" of plans looks to be pretty helpful, has lots of drawings and diagrams showing how the various joints and things go together, number of nails and size of nails, etc. Some of the stuff also provides a "nail gun option" and lists how many 3 1/2" air nailer nails to use in place of the hand-nailed larger/longer nails.

On the minus side, The materials are stacked with the trusses on top of the perlins and girts, and all the steel is on top of the columns. Good for shipping, not so helpful during construction with the last things I need on top...