Making One Tire Into Two.

   / Making One Tire Into Two. #11  
Build the center sprocket, then go to a box store and get a couple or four no-flat tires to put on each side of the center sprocket you just built. They come on nice steel rims that you could weld to your sprocket.
You'll need a similar split wheel for the front, without a drive sprocket.
 
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#12  
Build the center sprocket, then go to a box store and get a couple or four no-flat tires to put on each side of the center sprocket you just built. They come on nice steel rims that you could weld to your sprocket.
You'll need a similar split wheel for the front, without a drive sprocket.

I'm actually thinking no sprocket. I'm planning on the friction between the rubber tread and the rubber track to move the track. If you take a look at the picture of the track, you'll notice that part of the chain the sprocket rides in is missing. That's why I have it.

I looked up some of the epoxy resin and realized that it's not cheap. The more I think about it, the more I'm liking Redneck In Training's idea about gluing additional strips of tread around the outside of the existing tire to make the "double tire". Half the fun of this project is to do it on the cheap.

I'm still wondering what kind of glue I could use for this. It would have to hold well.
 
   / Making One Tire Into Two. #14  
Look at some google images of some bombardier snow cats, particularly the Bombifor ideas. Maybe use a rim of some sort and weld in some "sprocket teeth" in the center. A rail with a couple of bogie wheels and another rim or wheel in front. You could also buy a cheap solid wheel of some type and groove it to engage the track chain for rear drive wheels. Just throwing some ideas out there.
Probably the best resource for ideas is to check Youtube. Do a search for "tracked vehicles". My son has been collecting parts for the same type project and we have seen so awesome homemade tracked play things. Here's a good one that looks super simple. YouTube - Personal Tracked Vehicle
 
   / Making One Tire Into Two. #15  
I'm actually thinking no sprocket. I'm planning on the friction between the rubber tread and the rubber track to move the track. If you take a look at the picture of the track, you'll notice that part of the chain the sprocket rides in is missing. That's why I have it.

I looked up some of the epoxy resin and realized that it's not cheap. The more I think about it, the more I'm liking Redneck In Training's idea about gluing additional strips of tread around the outside of the existing tire to make the "double tire". Half the fun of this project is to do it on the cheap.

I'm still wondering what kind of glue I could use for this. It would have to hold well.

I see the missing teeth now. If you're going to rely on friction between the tire(s) and the track, you'll have to get the track tension right. Too loose = no friction, too tight and stuff breaks. Throw in some morning dew, rain, mud, or snow, and all bets are off.

Good luck, and keep something handy to pull it back home with.
 
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I see the missing teeth now. If you're going to rely on friction between the tire(s) and the track, you'll have to get the track tension right. Too loose = no friction, too tight and stuff breaks. Throw in some morning dew, rain, mud, or snow, and all bets are off.

Good luck, and keep something handy to pull it back home with.

I'm planning for adjustable tension using a treaded bolt. I'll probably have some springs in there too for good measure. I know that this is not going to have the same kind of brute force strength as a positive engagement kind of drive mechanism. The ultimate goal here is to spend some time with the kids building something that they'll have fun with after it's done. I want to pass on some of the ingenuity and creativity that you don't get from just buying whatever you need off some shelf and putting it together.
 
   / Making One Tire Into Two. #17  
The ultimate goal here is to spend some time with the kids building something that they'll have fun with after it's done. I want to pass on some of the ingenuity and creativity that you don't get from just buying whatever you need off some shelf and putting it together.[/QUOTE]


I totally agree.
Spending time with your kids is time well spent, and they will remember those times the rest of their lives. :)
 
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Probably the best resource for ideas is to check Youtube. Do a search for "tracked vehicles". My son has been collecting parts for the same type project and we have seen so awesome homemade tracked play things. Here's a good one that looks super simple. YouTube - Personal Tracked Vehicle

I've spent many hours watching "tracked vehicle" videos on youtube, sometimes with the kids, sometimes without. We've been planning this project for at least a year. Originally the plan was a fully tracked tank. I got to thinking that it would be much more fun to have two vehicles with which to have mock wars about the same time I acquired these tracks that were too small for the tank project. My 5-year-old son was the one that hatched the idea for a halftrack, and now we're off on that project.

The plan is still to end up with two vehicles. We're going to learn our lessons on the halftrack, and then we'll build a 2/5 scale tank.
 
   / Making One Tire Into Two. #19  
Wheelbarrow tires then...
 
   / Making One Tire Into Two. #20  
I Know a man that built a track assembly to hold a convery boom up on soft ground down in a ditch. He used an old excavator track and he bought an old set of foklift tires and axle off a junk 5 k hyster 50. they have about 3 inches of rubber around the rim. He left them on the axle and let a drill motor run the input shaft o n the axle. he tokk a grinder and ground out a profile to fit his track guides. Did that on bot wheels then used the tireds and axle to hold the track on. The lift tires are about 8 inches wide to start on. I cant remeber him using the tack afte rthe job was over I may can get a picture.
 

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