generator to home panel connection

[Bedlam]

And people need to realize that these aren't all new homes that have never had a generator, So making new codes is OK. But its not like we tear the house down each year and build it to the present codes.
i think most understand that the codes are there for a reason.But also that it doesn't mean we have to redo things to meet the present day codes.

 

[hr3]

Bedlem,, I think most of them are talking about installing something "new" on an old,,,or new home.. It dosn't matter if it is a new or old home when something electrical is installed it must meet current codes.. not the codes when the house was built...Just looked in the oldest code book i have,,,1987,,dad has the older ones,,he's 94 and still trying to find them,,lol

230-83 Transfer Equipment... Transfer equipment shall operate such that all ungrounded conductors of one source of supply are disconnected before and ungrounded conductors of the second source are connected

Brin.. the link looked good I think you will find a "UL" tag on that.. I see what you ment about the 2 switches you throw now...the link you gave though shows only 50amps allowed on the gen set side,, seems low..??

 

[tnhomestead]

What I meant is the only 100% way not to backfeed is if your not hooked up to the grid, anything can break! I used to do machine repair and we always disconnected power then locked the box first. Maybe overkill, but safe!
That said wow a lot of upset folks here, guess I can understand why -- but Im glad no codes where I live! Thanks to everyone I learned a lot here on this post!

 

[BungeeII]

didn't realize this was such a polarizing item

Crazy, isn't it?

There is a 0% chance of having a rational conversation about generators here.

Zero.

 

[Travelover]

Crazy, isn't it?

There is a 0% chance of having a rational conversation about generators here.

Zero.

Then I suppose my plan to shinny up the pole and attach jumper cables is off the table?

 

[brin]

Then I suppose my plan to shinny up the pole and attach jumper cables is off the table?

Geeez, that would work but where would you get jumper cables that long ? LOL

 

[Bedlam]

They wouldn't have to be long because you would definitely install a meter right after the jumper cables and then underground wire from there in.LOL

 

[hr3]

Ooo man now you bring up the safety of climbing poles without the proper safefty equipment...

 

[larryccf]

Then I suppose my plan to shinny up the pole and attach jumper cables is off the table?

and on that note, i just pulled my dog out of this fight

 

[ninefinger]

I understand the issues linemen have with this backfeeding. You shall understand the issues we consumers have when the power goes out. We are not all stupid consumers.

Did not say all are stupid, all it takes is one. Yes, I will admit I fully expect to find a backfeed when I check out a homeowner with a honda generator running his house during an extended outage, have found too many during my years. Most of the chicken houses in the area have back up, never found one that would backfeed. I think most of the problem is the areas that do not deal with extended outages as a way of life and have to plan for them but then I do understand there are stupid people all over. Guess I am a bit touchy right now, found out this afternoon we have a young man that got burnt last night. Tomorrow, Sunday, he will lose his left leg above the knee and part of his left bisep. Do not know what happened yet, just know a fine young man has had his life forever changed.