Terra-Dome Earth Shelter Build

   / Terra-Dome Earth Shelter Build #121  
Patrick_G,

Okay, when I looked at your excavation pics I was thinking how different it would be here. Your rock is deeper down. Ours is all jumbled up from the surface down to bedrock. Sometimes you run across a fairly consistent rocky layer. If you are lucky, you find a natural gravel run.

If you need more rocks, let me know :D.

I cracked up my excavator contractor when I told him in NW Ohio, where I am from, if we found a nice rock, we were so proud of it that we put it in the front yard and painted it.

Dave.
 
   / Terra-Dome Earth Shelter Build #122  
Patrick_G:

I just looked at all the photos of your house on CountryByNet, and that is some home you've constructed.

I only saw a basement floor plan, did you post floor plans for the other floors?

Good job!
 
   / Terra-Dome Earth Shelter Build #123  
[QUOTEI only saw a basement floor plan, did you post floor plans for the other floors?][/QUOTE]

There is a rumour around that after some company lost their way for a day in the house Pat now issues floor plans to all visitors!:p
 
   / Terra-Dome Earth Shelter Build #124  
[QUOTEI only saw a basement floor plan, did you post floor plans for the other floors?]

There is a rumour around that after some company lost their way for a day in the house Pat now issues floor plans to all visitors!:p[/QUOTE]

Egon, funny you should say that... During construction the lead carpenter/partner in the gen contractor company asked me, "What about the maps?" I said. "Maps, what maps?" He says, "Maps of this place so everyone can find their way around and not waste time getting lost." Interesting he should come up in conversation as I saw him at a building supply company for the first time in years, just yesterday.

Dave, I'll gladly accept a few semi loads of large or otherwise attractive or useful rocks for use in landscaping. Yours is a quite generous offer considering the cost to ship them to me. That would definitely get you on the official invite list to fish in my 12 ponds and receive a Christmas card every year.

MJNCAD, IF they aren't there then I didn't post them. I'm not sure if I have any of those files accessible. I have changed computers and sure didn't xfer them. I may have given the cheapie CAD program I drew them on away to someone. I had 3-4 different ones. Due to several other demands on my time I will probably not invest much effort in finding them now BUT... Later on this winter (in a couple months maybe) I will have a go at finding any floor plans for the ground floor or upstairs. I just had an apparently fatal printer glitch, networking problem, etc.

One of my priorities now is to install a new wired/wireless DSL modem and get three computers networked as well as install the new "all in one" printer. Unfortunately I feel woefully inadequate for the task, bereft of technological surety as my skills have become ever more obsolete at an accelerating pace since retirement. Oh woe is me boo hoo boo hoo.

Maybe I will just sketch the floor plans and scan them for posting. Fair enough?

Pat
 
   / Terra-Dome Earth Shelter Build #125  
Patrick_G -

'If you need more rocks, let me know :D.'

Shipping and handling is extra. I forgot to add the fine print in my original offer.

The pond fishing sounds good, if I win the lottery I'll be right over in my new Freightliner.

Actually the cruelty of New England rocks is they aren't all that pretty for the most part - just plentiful. The glaciers ground them off round on most edges so they aren't great for stone work either.

Dave.
 
   / Terra-Dome Earth Shelter Build #126  
One of my priorities now is to install a new wired/wireless DSL modem and get three computers networked as well as install the new "all in one" printer. Unfortunately I feel woefully inadequate for the task, bereft of technological surety as my skills have become ever more obsolete at an accelerating pace since retirement. Oh woe is me boo hoo boo hoo.

Pat

This is exceedingly easy. Not foolproof but easy. Go buy Cat 5e wire (or Cat 6) buy a crimper and connectors. Follow the instructions in the box. Really it is easy. As for the modem / router most will self setup. Don't be afraid. You really can't break these things.

Are you doing any home automation (using the computer to turn on and off your lights or run security / heating / tv's)? We have a beginners system in the LA house and will go fully automated up north in the new build.
 
   / Terra-Dome Earth Shelter Build #127  
This is exceedingly easy. Not foolproof but easy. Go buy Cat 5e wire (or Cat 6) buy a crimper and connectors. Follow the instructions in the box. Really it is easy. As for the modem / router most will self setup. Don't be afraid. You really can't break these things.

Are you doing any home automation (using the computer to turn on and off your lights or run security / heating / tv's)? We have a beginners system in the LA house and will go fully automated up north in the new build.

The house was prewired but... the prewire contractor only ran one cat 5 to my wifes office (everything is done home run to central spot. So the choice is use the one cat 5 for hardwired land line to support FAX at her office or use it for networking but you can't have both. Her office phone is a wireless unit. We have 9 phones working off the same base unit and a second system with 4 phones off a single base that is connected to a Magic Jack.

I don't think I want to do automation via a computer network. X10 protocol stuff would do everything I need, I think.

I went through 3 sets of wireless networking gear ever spiraling upward in cost and supposedly capability and NEVER got reliable connection between her office and mine (different floors about 1/2 a house away.) I even got a repeater and still no joy. I originally asked for power line modems at the local emporium of technical computer equipment sales (STAPLES) and no one knew what I was talking about which is what started me through the various wireless trials and tribulations. By the time I had tried all the wireless crap (OK the LInksys equipment is good stuff just not working for me) Staples was stocking powerline modems. I bought a couple and voilà we were networked. I use the LInksys wireless router as a wired router connecting my computer and DSL modem. Wife gets to internet via powerline modem to that router.

So now I bought a Dell Studio 16 laptop with built in wireless connectivity and wired network capability. It gets great signal strength (why not at 3 ft from the router) but won't talk over the network. Meanwhile I have a connectivity problem and get telephone tech help from my ISP who claims my DSL modem is bad. They have a new modem that is wired and wireless and will handle 3 computers for $100 ($50 after rebate) so I order one. The next morning without two women's voices buzzing in my head (I suppose I'm sexist but I usually get better help from a dude) I power down everything at my computer and reboot everything only to find that the DSL modem now works perfectly. Oh well... I don't mind the upgrade to wired and wireless DSL. I'll keep the wired DSL modem and the Linksys wired and wireless router for just in case as a backup in case of hardware problems with the new modem at some future date.

I make no claim to being particularly good at computer networking and have repetitively demonstrated that lacking but I'm not completely incompetent having some rather wide applicable experience and credentials (I have made a living as an electronic instrument designer, most importantly medical electronics including dual beam ultraviolet spectrophotometers for blood analysis and I retired as a computer scientist with a BS degree in computer science, 1984 and a MS in software engineering, 1986.) I'm feeling the increasing pinch of obsolescence as time passes and more and more I find myself identifying with my previous incarnation (Physicist (1972) and my last one (MS Instructional Technology 1994.)

Yeah, yeah, I know it looks like I couldn't hold a job or had a short attention span but I like to think I was versatile. Anyway, sometimes there is more than meets the eye with the supposedly plug and play. If I can't get the whole shebang up and running to my satisfaction with the new wired and wireless DSL I will not worry a bit. I'll just throw a little money at some technogeek working for minimum wage at a computer sales store, offering a bonus when the system is up and running. Either that or find some 12-15 year old whose mom will let the kid get paid $50-100 to make it work.

How does this relate to earth sheltered homes. Well... with sufficient rebar in all walls and ceilings and sufficient earth cover your wireless signal will not radiate sufficiently to enable anyone to piggyback (pirate your signal parasitically.)

Pat
 
   / Terra-Dome Earth Shelter Build #128  
MJNCAD, IF they aren't there then I didn't post them. I'm not sure if I have any of those files accessible. I have changed computers and sure didn't xfer them. I may have given the cheapie CAD program I drew them on away to someone. I had 3-4 different ones. Due to several other demands on my time I will probably not invest much effort in finding them now BUT... Later on this winter (in a couple months maybe) I will have a go at finding any floor plans for the ground floor or upstairs. I just had an apparently fatal printer glitch, networking problem, etc.

One of my priorities now is to install a new wired/wireless DSL modem and get three computers networked as well as install the new "all in one" printer. Unfortunately I feel woefully inadequate for the task, bereft of technological surety as my skills have become ever more obsolete at an accelerating pace since retirement. Oh woe is me boo hoo boo hoo.

Maybe I will just sketch the floor plans and scan them for posting. Fair enough?

Pat


You have plenty to do Pat, so don't worry about the floor plans. Thanks for replying to my question.
 
   / Terra-Dome Earth Shelter Build #129  
You have plenty to do Pat, so don't worry about the floor plans. Thanks for replying to my question.

Plenty to do is an understatement. I would be busy if I were quintuplets. One of the ways I get a micro-vacation worked in is the internet and the likes of this site.

One of the tasks I need to address is an instruction manual for the house. With the eclectic mix of construction types and mechanical systems it is unreasonable to expect some repair tech to be able to just walk in and make sense out of it. The only single place where all of the info can be accessed is my head and, trust me, that is not secure long term storage.

Documenting the project "as built" with explanations of the mechanical systems and general idea of plumbing and wiring needs to be done so if I have the floor plans in electronic format I will be including them in the manual. Once in hand, why not post them?

Pat
 
   / Terra-Dome Earth Shelter Build #130  
A good O & M (Operations & Maintenance) manual is a good idea Pat regardless of construction type(s). However most people, myself included don't have one.

Heck, the last place I worked at (renewable energy lab) had woefully inadequate to non-existent manuals for its numerous facilities.
 

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