Backhoe 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines

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KLX

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Can I run a 3Pt log splitter off the lines that normally supply my backhoe? Any draw backs to doing this? I have an L3400 HST with a BH75 backhoe. Thanks.
 
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That is definitely how i would run a splitter on my tractor.
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #3  
You should be able to do this. You may not get great speed out of the log splitter and thus it may take a little longer. Most splitters want 11 or so GPM out of the hydraulic pump. Not sure what you are getting off of your rear remotes but it is probably less - 6-7 GPM.

I run a splitter off of my remotes at only 5GPM's and it is tolerable.

The other drawback that people mention is that any time you hook an implement up to your remotes, you risk contamination of your hydraulic fluid. So you always want to be sure that the attachment has clean oil, isn't old/rusty, full of water, etc. I guess one could call this practicing safe hydraulics!
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #4  
I run a Wallenstein splitter off the tractor hydraulics. It works fine, a touch slow but the benefits outweigh any disadvantages.
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #5  
I run a Ramsplitter 16-ton 3-point splitter off my BX24 backhoe lines. At 2500 rpm I get about 22 sec cycle time, which is about as fast as I can get rid of the split pieces and get a new log ready to place on the beam if I'm working myself.

Works fine for me.
 
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Hey, I have a BX24 as well and am considering a 3 pt splitter. Which line did you connect to on the tractor side, the regular return or the power beyond? If the PB is not reconnected will the loader function and the 3PH? I realize your post is old, and I did read many other posts re. PB circuits, but haven't seen anyone discuss what to do when the backhoe isn't installed. Without another cylinder (splitter, etc.) connected when the BH is removed, the tractor's outlet must be connected to the PB inlet presumably to keep the flow going to the next valve. So I am guessing that the return line from the splitter should be connected to the PB inlet at the tractor. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!

Keith
 
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Hey, I have a BX24 as well and am considering a 3 pt splitter. Which line did you connect to on the tractor side, the regular return or the power beyond? If the PB is not reconnected will the loader function and the 3PH? I realize your post is old, and I did read many other posts re. PB circuits, but haven't seen anyone discuss what to do when the backhoe isn't installed. Without another cylinder (splitter, etc.) connected when the BH is removed, the tractor's outlet must be connected to the PB inlet presumably to keep the flow going to the next valve. So I am guessing that the return line from the splitter should be connected to the PB inlet at the tractor. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!

Keith

Welcome to TBN Keith:D

You are correct in that the lines MUST be either connected together, or connected to a Open Center valve so that the fluid will have some place to go. There is the full flow of the hydraulic pump in those line whenever the tractor is running-and interrupting that flow can cause damage to the machine.

So basically, when the backhoe is removed-the two lines are coupled together forming the PB loop. You can insert a OC valve into the loop to power other things just the the backhoe is inserted into the loop.

Clear as mud?:D
 
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I am looking at the Harbor Freight 3 pt splitter as a poor man's luxury. Has anyone done a complete install of one of these to the backhoe connections? The manual doesn't say if it's a center-open or center-closed valve, so I'm going to call HF tomorrow.

RSVP
 
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kennyd- in your last post- basically the power beyond loop can be disconnected and reconnected to any open center valve ? then what the third connection on the BX24 for ? same goes for BX25. I am trying to understand the 3 connections on the back of BX for BH. when the PBY loop is disconnected - I would be left standing with 3 hydraulic connections. One for out PBY and other PBY in. and the third is ? :confused:
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #10  
kennyd- in your last post- basically the power beyond loop can be disconnected and reconnected to any open center valve ? then what the third connection on the BX24 for ? same goes for BX25. I am trying to understand the 3 connections on the back of BX for BH. when the PBY loop is disconnected - I would be left standing with 3 hydraulic connections. One for out PBY and other PBY in. and the third is ? :confused:

Here is the best answer I can give since I have little knowledge of how Kubota does it specifically:

On some John Deere's, the PB setup (tractor side) consists of one OUT (pressure, feed, supply-whatever you want to call it) and two IN's (return, return-to-tank, sump, reservoir, blah-blah-blah)

Now, one of the returns actually feeds the 3PH valve, it is used when the backhoe is removed so the 3PH will be functional. You also would use that for a logsplitter return since you would want the 3PH to work.

The other return goes directly to the tank-thus bypassing the 3PH so it is inoperative, that return is used when a backhoe is mounted.

I realized this probably does NOT answer your question, but if you can show me drawings or pictures then I would be happy to dig deeper with you.
 

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