Preferred gas engines for 1 ton pickups

Hematite · Dec 25, 2009

OMG, don't remind me of the Mopar dual ballast resistor!

That has to be THE most replaced auto part in history! I don't even want to think about how many I replaced over the years.

FlaDon · Dec 25, 2009

Hematite said:
OMG, don't remind me of the Mopar dual ballast resistor!

That has to be THE most replaced auto part in history! I don't even want to think about how many I replaced over the years.

And it always was the run side that cracked and failed. Dodge would have been better off selling singles at the rate we went thru them. Sometimes replacing them twice in the same day on the same vehicle.

WilliamBos · Dec 25, 2009

Hematite said:
OMG, don't remind me of the Mopar dual ballast resistor!

That has to be THE most replaced auto part in history! I don't even want to think about how many I replaced over the years.

I agree!! And the most popular item at thr wreckers too. Every Dodge was picked clean.

RobertN · Dec 25, 2009

8' flatbed with short boxes underneath. With gooseneck and 5th wheel hitch ability. And LOTS of rope hooks.

That, should be the default truck "bed".

Steve C said:
I wish my truck had a 9 or 10 foot bed.

mojoinco · Dec 25, 2009

...and short drop down sides (like the old VW pickups based on the bus).

dgl24087 · Dec 26, 2009

Ford has released power figures for the new 5.0L in Mustang configuration. 412 HP and 390 ft-lbs. of torque. Wonder what the stats will be as configured for the F150 next year?

dodge man · Dec 27, 2009

O.K., I have to step in here and set the record straight. As my name implies I'm a bit biased towards the Mopars. First off, D.P. I have no idea where you are getting your torque numbers for a 5.7 hemi but the numbers you are quoting are flat out wrong. The hemi is making at least 325ft-lbs at 2000 rpms or maybe more. It has a very strong low end torque curve, yet it carrys this torque and revs well. This is an old torque curve, the new numbers are better.

0403Phr Hemi 17 Z Photo

Note: this is from popular hot rodding, but it is for a stock engine.

Diamondpilot · Dec 27, 2009

dodge man said:
O.K., I have to step in here and set the record straight. As my name implies I'm a bit biased towards the Mopars. First off, D.P. I have no idea where you are getting your torque numbers for a 5.7 hemi but the numbers you are quoting are flat out wrong. The hemi is making at least 325ft-lbs at 2000 rpms or maybe more. It has a very strong low end torque curve, yet it carrys this torque and revs well. This is an old torque curve, the new numbers are better.

0403Phr Hemi 17 Z Photo

Note: this is from popular hot rodding, but it is for a stock engine.

I got the numbers from the graph provided by Dmace that came from Dodge. Its clearly making about 240 FT TQ.

Chris

dodge man · Dec 27, 2009

I'm not sure the source of that torque and hp curve but it doesn't match anything I've ever seen. I'd almost think its from a dyno and the numbers are from the rear wheels, but if that was the case, the upper numbers are too high. One of the big selling points of the hemi is that it has good low end numbers plus it has good high rev power. The article I pulled the curve from was actually comparing the 5.7 hemi to the Chevy LS6 motor. The gist of the article was that the hemi was maybe as good or a little better than the LS6.

D.P., its pretty obivious that you are biased against the hemi as a truck engine. I think the truth is that it is an equal or better than any other engine in its displacement class, but once again we are drifting from the OP's original question.

Diamondpilot · Dec 27, 2009

dodge man said:
I'm not sure the source of that torque and hp curve but it doesn't match anything I've ever seen. I'd almost think its from a dyno and the numbers are from the rear wheels, but if that was the case, the upper numbers are too high. One of the big selling points of the hemi is that it has good low end numbers plus it has good high rev power. The article I pulled the curve from was actually comparing the 5.7 hemi to the Chevy LS6 motor. The gist of the article was that the hemi was maybe as good or a little better than the LS6.

D.P., its pretty obivious that you are biased against the hemi as a truck engine. I think the truth is that it is an equal or better than any other engine in its displacement class, but once again we are drifting from the OP's original question.

It came strait from Dodge. Here is a link. I am sure Dodge or any manufacture would only post the best looking numbers they could.

I wonder if there is not a difference in the 5.7 Hemi place in cars as the graph you showed was clearly aimed at cars versus the 5.7 Hemi place in trucks?

I am not a Fan of the Hemi in a truck. I have owned one and was not disappointed but not impressed either. The simple fact is as far as a gas engine for a 3/4 or 1 ton the GM and Ford offerings are much better suited.

Dodge - 2010 Ram 1500 - Capability - Powertrain

If you scroll though you will see the 4.7L and 3.7L engines offered have a much better torque curve for a truck and the 4.7L actually makes more power below 2000 rpm than the 5.7L Hemi does. The 3.7L V6 is not much behind the 5.7L Hemi in the torque dept at 2,000 rpm's.

I think you are seeing in your graph is a car version or a modified versions engine's specs.

Chris