Hydro's and brake pedals

[Hematite]

But I don't have that problem on mine! We were just pointing at the problem on yours.

Exactly!

 

[Glen Watkins]

 

[chevyman29]

haha lol! we were only trying to help out the less fortunate among us LOL!

 

[JB4310]

For these turning brakes one might think about an electrical option that will turn them on at a flick of a switch. It would be actuate the brakes in accordance with the amount the steering wheel is turned. Even have it variable with speed and amount of steering wheel turn.

That's part of the problem, It's not just about turning.
If we just keep calling them "turning brakes" it's easy for people to come up with all these analogies and excuses for why they don't need to turn their tractors like their Grampa's did.

Turning in a tight area is only a small part of their use. What about all these operators that are telling use they absolutely need them to stay in a straight line under all different scenarios and uses.

Maybe if they were called "keeps you in control brakes" it would be harder to defend their awkward positioning.

JB.

 

[chevyman29]

they do come in handy in a variety of other ways especially when using the fel for several things

 

[GPintheMitten]

Too many posts for me to read through so this might be a duplicate, if so, sorry.

I have a small Kubota with the split brakes on the same side as the hydrostatic peddle. I know I need more weight on the front right now and am going to add it. But currently it is hard to steer with the 3pt blower on the back. But the tractor is small, so I can reach down with my right hand and tap the left or right brake to assist in steering.

It is certainly not ideal and sometimes I think about modifying either the brakes or the hydro pedal to provide a tall lever to make hand operation easier.

But when I'm mowing it is not a problem and I think when I get weight on the front it will not be as much of a problem with a heavy rear implement.

 

[Egon]

If you use a general purpose computer to operate the system instead of a purpose built collection of analog thingies you might be able to program the tractor for autonomous operation for standard chores and just leave me in the house by the fire till, as Eliza put it, "Spring creeps over me window sill."

There are some tractors so programed but still require operator presence! TV's, radios, books, INTERNET connections and cell phones may help the time pass. Maybe even use the laptops for serious farm business. Maybe even shoot the odd varmint if that is a requirement.

That's part of the problem, It's not just about turning.

Directional control; that could all be built into the system.

 

[SPYDERLK]

I think Patrick is right; agree to disagree.

I think its the lack of exhibited understanding between the conditions of "have no need" and "don't require".

My tractor design is just fine perfect. For me. There is not a single solitary itsy bitsy little thing wrong with it. It completely fits the market it was made for.

I can use my steering brakes if I wanted to. I have messed with them. I completely understand what a steering brake is used for.

For me, they are unnecessary. I have used them on my Dad's 9N, and on the Farmall-A I just sold. I have used them a tad on my Kubota too. I did not need them. And, I did not like the skid marks they made.

IF I needed that maneuverability I would look at an ASV RC30 or one of the small Bobcat tracked loader. Turn around in it's own radius. It does not even had a brake pedal.

What you are claiming, and myself even is opinion. And, it is based on your particular application and needs, as is mine.

IF, it does not fit your needs, then don't buy one. There is a big market out there. Get the one that fits YOUR needs.

IMHO, of course

Again, the confusion of the term "need" with "requirement". ---ad infinitum

You've never had a situation where you had to make a 3 point turn where if you had a brake you could have finished the turn in a tighter radius and just continued on? Never?

SKID MARKS!? Uh... Duhh - -Maybe with a little more practice youd "get" the degree of application thing and avoid skid marks 99%.
larry

 

[SPYDERLK]

That's part of the problem, It's not just about turning.
If we just keep calling them "turning brakes" it's easy for people to come up with all these analogies and excuses for why they don't need to turn their tractors like their Grampa's did.

Turning in a tight area is only a small part of their use. What about all these operators that are telling use they absolutely need them to stay in a straight line under all different scenarios and uses.

Maybe if they were called "keeps you in control brakes" it would be harder to defend their awkward positioning.

JB.

One would think there are those who adamantly plot a course of straight lines and gentle curves, foreseeing all slopes, orientations, and obstacles, and giving them ample or precisely proper berth so they wont have the slightest need to use a control aiding tractor feature they, by absolute declaration, dont need.

And if in fact using the feature would help they would find another way instead.
larry

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[Kyle_in_Tex]

After reading the whole thread I've decided to add a few gems (or peach pits) myself.
1) we need more romance here (or more about Madonna's spandex)

2) I can put anyone in a predicament (on my place) where you'll only be able to get out of it with either using brakes to help steer or soil your pants. Come on over if you don't believe me. Everyone's invited.

3) I'm glad Art was not my salesman. I knew very little about tractors when I bought one. Count me as one who is glad to have brakes on opposite side and use them frequently as needed. 4WD, 2WD, mowing and loader use. Believe it or not, my tractor hasn't had to go into the shop for rear brakes or broken front end steering parts.