Use for draw bar?

[two_bit_score]

They are actually a thing of the past on most of today's tractor since they come with a fixed draw bar off the rear tranny.

One word of caution is when pulling from a 3 point draw bar is keep it low. Allowing to raise up over the axle line can easily get a tractor over on its back. Guy just 1/2 mile from me got killed on a Ford 961 trying to pull out a culvert drain when it went over backwards and killed him.

Chris

And it can happen quickly, too. Before you know it.

 

[archerm3]

I'm curious what kind of tractor comes without a drawbar?

My Kubota 295DT didn't....someone cut it off...

 

[EE_Bota]

I'd like to get a swinging draw bar for my B7200 but I haven't seen one on a machine yet.
Are they all the same?

Towing with my 3pt hitch can work but when backing the hitch can lift at interesting times.:confused2:
Anybody have photos of their swinging draw bar or of a method to keep the 3pt from lifting unexpectedly?

If you look very closely at the first page of the PDF that was posted, you will see struts coming up from the 3ph drawbar that connect to the place where the top link would normally connect. That is what we used on our 8n ford, which did not have a swinging drawbar, but due to this thread, I know know it was merely missing in action. When you use the drawbar lift limiters, it is important to turn the 3ph lift OFF so it cannot accidentally come up, because it will pretzel the lift limiters.

The link below was generated by going to Tractor Supply, and searching on the word "drawbar" (in case the link expires) You will want two uppers, two lowers, and a rotation lock, all of which are shown on the page the link points to. The also have a swinging drawbar.


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[RoyJackson]

And it can happen quickly, too. Before you know it.

Yep...about ¾ of a second to the point of no return (75°...then the tractor goes all the way over). Good reason to make sure your seatbelt is used. The ROPS will prevent a full rollover, but if you're not belted in, you'll be injured or killed when the tractor rolls sideways after it hits the ROPS.

Anyway, you can also use the draw bar for towing a pull behind rotary cutter. Pull behind cutters require less PTO HP then same sized cutters on the 3ph.

During the last snowstorm in PA, I used the draw bar and a tow strap to pull my wife's Subaru Outback out of a drift.

 

[RalphVa]

My 4010 CUT has a fixed drawbar, but I also bought one for the 3ph. Needed it to convert a JD M soil ripper to 3 ph. You can screw on 1 or more different ball sizes to tow various trailers, etc. and leave them there vs. having to remove and to change the balls on a fixed drawbar.

 

[lakngulf]

My Kioti CK30 has a drawbar neatly stored under the center of the read axle. Take a couple of pins out, turn it around, re-attach and a drawbar like I used for pull behind bush hogs, hayracks, corn wagons, etc when I was a kid.

My question: When I need to pull something stout (like a stump) I attach a chain to the stump and to the drawbar holder (the part the drawbar attaches to). That is the same or better than actually turning the drawbar around and attaching to it. Right??

 

[Soundguy]

IMHO.. I woulddn't cain my expensive tractor to something like a stump.. and deffinately never to the end of a drawbar ( lever ).. if I absolutely had to.. I think I'd find a big tire rim to put some angle ont he chain.. but still.. you've hitched your tractor to an anchor and are hoping for the best... I'm glad I don't cut down alot of trees.. cause I'd not use my tractor to stump them.. i'd dig down and chop them out or burn them. I also have an old electric chainsaw with a sacrifical bar and blade that I have cut stumps under ground level after digging around them. keeps the tractor on all 4 tires..

soundguy

 

[Coyote machine]

lakngulf stated:

My question: When I need to pull something stout (like a stump) I attach a chain to the stump and to the drawbar holder (the part the drawbar attaches to). That is the same or better than actually turning the drawbar around and attaching to it. Right??

No and wrong! The drawbar and it's housing should only be used to draw items (tow) (not yank and release as might occur with a stump letting go), at the drawbar's attachment level- ie. low center of gravity. Doing what you are doing could end up flipping the tractor backward; and what Soundguy said.

And to answer what kind of tractor comes without a drawbar- my Kioti came without one- but did include a top link.

 

[lakngulf]

I will give this some thought. I always thought a drawbar (or at least what I consider to be a draw bar) to be the STRONGEST point at which a tractor can pull. I am not talking about anything to do with the 3pt or the FEL, but the bar that attaches under the center portion of the rear axle.

As a farm boy on Allis Chambers, and then on Deutsch, and then on JD, we hooked up anything and everything that the tractor would pull. We hooked it to the drawbar because that was the part of the tractor that would not tear up. I am not talking about yanking, I am just talking about hooking up, putting the tractor in the lowest pull gear available, giving a little gas and letting out on the clutch gently. Either the item comes along with the tractor, or the tractor stalls, or tires churn. I have always considered a tractor not to be strong enough to destroy it's drawbar hookup

I will defer to those with more experience in knowledge, as it sounds like I have some un-learning to do. So far my CK30 has not been strong enough to pull out a stump more than 2 inch diameter, without some serious digging around it. I consider myself doing more damage to the FEL digging around it than to the drawbar unit pulling it.

 

[BayouMan]

I have always used my drawbar with a 2" ball to pull logs with and to yank out smaller trees and shrubs. The center of gravity is low enough, that the tractor will usually either stall or spin out. At least that has been the case for me for about the last 45-50 years.
I like the rim idea and the pole method to generate lift when pulling out a tree or stump.

Mike