Difference b/w b3030 and b3200

[toothdoc]

Noob here, but "lurked" and learned alot from the forum...I just recently purchased my first tractor Kubota B3200...Only have 4 hrs on it, but waiting to get more when the weather/rain will cooprerate. I see alot of ya'll talk more favorably about the 3030? I never looked at the 3030, guess I didn't know to- I was between 2600/2900/3200...What is the difference, or what makes one more preferable over the other...Thanks.-Doug

 

[Ductape]

The 3030 has a bunch of premium features vs. the 3200 is more of a basic tractor. Some of the premium features are:

Position control vs. quarter inching on the 3200
Hydrostatic steering vs. steering box / linkage
Extendable three point hitch arms
Extendable sway arms on three point vs. turnbuckles
tilt wheel
suspension seat

I'm sure i'm forgetting a few...........................

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

The 3030 has a bunch of premium features vs. the 3200 is more of a basic tractor. Some of the premium features are:

Position control vs. quarter inching on the 3200
Hydrostatic steering vs. steering box / linkage
Extendable three point hitch arms
Extendable sway arms on three point vs. turnbuckles
tilt wheel
suspension seat

I'm sure i'm forgetting a few...........................

MY B7800 had quarter inching valve which would let the 3ph drop a specific amount when you pushed it down to the first detent and drop all the way when you pushed it down all the way, as I remember. A current B7800 owner can correct this if I remember wrong. My recently ex B3200 and another new one I checked on the lot did not do the specific drop, it dropped till you stopped. I had asked if this was the same with other B3200 owners on this forum and I think those that responded agreed. I think the ads indicated it has quarter inching valve but if it does it doesn't have the same one as the B7800 which dropped a specific quarter of an inch with each push. I mention this because I keep seeing that the B3200 has quarter inching valve or it may have been added/changed after mine was made.

 

[Chris86314]

MY B7800 had quarter inching valve which would let the 3ph drop a specific amount when you pushed it down to the first detent and drop all the way when you pushed it down all the way, as I remember. A current B7800 owner can correct this if I remember wrong. My recently ex B3200 and another new one I checked on the lot did not do the specific drop, it dropped till you stopped. I had asked if this was the same with other B3200 owners on this forum and I think those that responded agreed. I think the ads indicated it has quarter inching valve but if it does it doesn't have the same one as the B7800 which dropped a specific quarter of an inch with each push. I mention this because I keep seeing that the B3200 has quarter inching valve or it may have been added/changed after mine was made.

My manual said the same thing (quarter inching valve) but does the same thing you mentioned.. either doesn't work or isn't there. Push the lever to the stop and it either goes all the way up or all the way down. Push it beyond the stop and it does the same thing.

Mine was one of the first ones Barlow sold and was "the" first one they put the BH on before shipping it to me.

Probably another misprint in the owners manual by Kubota just like the 50 hour oil/filter change fiasco being discussed on another thread.

 

[General Lee]

My manual said the same thing (quarter inching valve) but does the same thing you mentioned.. either doesn't work or isn't there. Push the lever to the stop and it either goes all the way up or all the way down. Push it beyond the stop and it does the same thing.

Mine was one of the first ones Barlow sold and was "the" first one they put the BH on before shipping it to me.

Probably another misprint in the owners manual by Kubota just like the 50 hour oil/filter change fiasco being discussed on another thread.

Same with my 3200. Says 1/4 inching valve but it doesn't do it.

 

[herringchoker]

On my B7800, push the lever to the detent and it raises or lowers very slowly, push it past the detent and it raises or lowers quickly. Never could figure out why they called it quarter inching.:confused2:

 

[kuboman]

The idea of the 1/4 inching valve is so you can raise/lower the 3pt very slowly hence 1/4". It does not mean it only moves 1/4" at a time. You can move 1/4" if desired. It is more precise compared to the position control.

 

[Toolguy]

The idea of the 1/4 inching valve is so you can raise/lower the 3pt very slowly hence 1/4". It does not mean it only moves 1/4" at a time. You can move 1/4" if desired. It is more precise compared to the position control.

I disagree that the 1/4 inching valve is more precise than position control. Just the opposite. The purpose of position control is repeatability. The ability to lower an implement to the same depth each time just by moving the lever down to the same spot. A lever stop can be set so that all you need to do is push the lever down to the stop, leave it there, and the implement will return to the same depth every time. This is very handy when using a brush hog, for example. If, at the end of a row you raise the brush hog to make your turn, when you go straight again and lower the postion control lever back down to the stop the brush hog will lower back to the same place it was before. Basically, the lift arms corespond to the position of the lever. Move the lever all the way down and leave it there and the arms will go all the way down. Move the lever all the way to the top and leave it there and the arms will go all the way to the top. Move the lever anywhere in between and leave it there and the arms will go to that spot.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

The idea of the 1/4 inching valve is so you can raise/lower the 3pt very slowly hence 1/4". It does not mean it only moves 1/4" at a time. You can move 1/4" if desired. It is more precise compared to the position control.

I also think your confusing position control with some other terminology.
Precision starts with position control, then 1/4"ing then there's what's truly on the B3200 which is hold it down to go down and hold it up to go up. Let go when you think your there going up or down. I've had all of them and I'm not to much into rear implements as much as I am into mowing and fel, soon to also try BHing but position control is the best for accuracy, ease of use and repeatability.

 

[kuboman]

I also think your confusing position control with some other terminology.
Precision starts with position control, then 1/4"ing then there's what's truly on the B3200 which is hold it down to go down and hold it up to go up. Let go when you think your there going up or down. I've had all of them and I'm not to much into rear implements as much as I am into mowing and fel, soon to also try BHing but position control is the best for accuracy, ease of use and repeatability.

OK....I stand corrected.:ashamed::ashamed::ashamed:

 

[logan97]

On my B7800, push the lever to the detent and it raises or lowers very slowly, push it past the detent and it raises or lowers quickly. Never could figure out why they called it quarter inching.:confused2:

please excuse my ignorance but buy (detent) are you referring to the adjustable bracket that lets you go to the slow or fast position? also the valve in front of the seat does near ones ankles, open/close what exactly does this do?

 

[herringchoker]

please excuse my ignorance but buy (detent) are you referring to the adjustable bracket that lets you go to the slow or fast position? also the valve in front of the seat does near ones ankles, open/close what exactly does this do?

Detent is probably not the right word...it's those little steps in the slot (one at the upper end of the slot, one at the lower end) where the lever slides. You push the lever slightly sideways to get to the next (faster) step.
The knob in front of the seat is a further control of how fast the TPH drops, which you can infinitely adjust to suit the implement you are using. There is no similar adjustment for TPH raising speed (other than engine speed).

 

[logan97]

Detent is probably not the right word...it's those little steps in the slot (one at the upper end of the slot, one at the lower end) where the lever slides. You push the lever slightly sideways to get to the next (faster) step.
The knob in front of the seat is a further control of how fast the TPH drops, which you can infinitely adjust to suit the implement you are using. There is no similar adjustment for TPH raising speed (other than engine speed).

I have had the knob all the way closed and the TPH still drops/raises like a bomb/rocket.
On my B7800 I have an adjustable metal plate which I can "inch" or raise/drop quickly.

 

[General Lee]

please excuse my ignorance but buy (detent) are you referring to the adjustable bracket that lets you go to the slow or fast position? also the valve in front of the seat does near ones ankles, open/close what exactly does this do?

The knob by your ankle, at least on my 3200 not only controls the speed of the TPH raising and lowering, but when u place the implement in the position you want it, turn the knob to closed and the THP locks in the position you placed it

 

[herringchoker]

I have had the knob all the way closed and the TPH still drops/raises like a bomb/rocket.
On my B7800 I have an adjustable metal plate which I can "inch" or raise/drop quickly.

I've never tried closing the knob completely since the "inching" does a slow controlled drop for me.