Hydro's and brake pedals

[patrick_g]

Phone Booth??? Where does one find them these days??

Tights, haven't worn them in ten years now but I think I could still find them!

Skiing and cycling they become quite comfortable when it gets colder.:thumbsup:

Phone booths may be viewed in several museums. I recall in the early 80's a quonset hut (left over from WW II) that was used as a Mexican restaurant (Chuey's) which had its original built in all wood customer booths and matching phone booth. An interesting lunch spot near the San Diego waterfront as its customers ranged from shipyard welders with goggles around their necks to bankers in 3 piece suits.

Oh, and regarding the split brakes for controlling the tractor in reverse while front wheels are in the air... While I recognize that it will work and that I can do it (even with HST and brakes on same side), I don't do it. I seem to get the job done pretty good trusting to luck and once in a while moderating the bucket force to let the front tires get just a little traction. In practice, for me, (your mileage may differ) I don't find that I need to use the brakes to do the back dragging as well as it takes to satisfactorily complete the task. It is not out of being stubborn, it is a lack of need. If I should get into a situation where I actually need to use the split brakes, I have them and can use them.

Pat

 

[Egon]

split brakes for controlling the tractor in reverse while front wheels are in the air...

I do this while going forward when clearing snow. Gets rid of the ice or wet snow compacted on the asphalt drive!

If I'm backdraging on dirt I don't lift the front wheels and with the ice that is sorta a waste of time.

Actually the scarcity of phone booths is of concern to me as I do not have a cell phone.

 

[MossRoad]

Actually the scarcity of phone booths is of concern to me as I do not have a cell phone.

Do you still carry a dime? :laughing:

(Back when I was in Boy Scouts they always said you should carry a dime in case you had to make an emergency phone call. )

Now a days they tell you not to do anything stupid in public because everyone carries camera phones! :confused2:

 

[patrick_g]

Do you still carry a dime? :laughing:

(Back when I was in Boy Scouts they always said you should carry a dime in case you had to make an emergency phone call. )

I used to have a pair of Top Sider deck shoes in "Penny Loafer" style. I once carried dimes in them but graduated to quarters due to inflation. Then pay phones began to fade away and the quarters were mostly a statement on our inflationary times, not "being prepared."

Pat

 

[Egon]

Do you still carry a dime?

Sometimes just after I drop the bottles and cans off!:thumbsup:

 

[DanD78]

I have a Deere 3320, 32 hp E-hydro. the wheel brakes are on the left and the hydro on the right. I have no idea if the brakes work or not. I have never touched them. I think I have used the parking brake a couple of times when hooking up to the 3 point and always when I haul the tractor.

The intention of individual brakes is to shorten the turning radius if a brake is applied while turning. I have used them a lot on large farm tractors but never had the need on my little one. They probably have their place in operation but not for what I use my tractor for.

Dan

I was the 3rd person to respond and have to take back what I said. Last Saturday we had a sunny day and I wanted to get the barn cleaned out. The ground was still frozen and had about 4" of slop on the top. The only way I could steer the tractor was with the brakes even in 4wd. I thought it worked pretty well having the hydro on the right and the brakes on the left.

Dan

 

[soulasphil]

I have already had occasion to give my opinion on these braking problems, but I will say this again :

IMHO breaks on the left side for the left foot are extremely dangerous, especially in this country where almost every car has a gear transmission with the clutch on the left and the brake on the right. It is bound to create accidents in an emergency.

Split brakes are a must if you mean to steer a tractor with heavy implements in a muddy environment (even with my Ag tires and 4WD).

 

[JB4310]

IMHO breaks on the left side for the left foot are extremely dangerous, especially in this country where almost every car has a gear transmission with the clutch on the left and the brake on the right. It is bound to create accidents in an emergency.

I know you are referring to using brakes with right foot out of pure instinct, it's that way everywhere whether manual or auto. Going 80 MPH there could be an issue of instinctively applying brakes with right foot, but these things are going 5-15 MPH, reflexes need not be so fast and on top of that the human brain is intuitive enough to learn new routines when you sit on the machine it says ok there's a job for the right foot and a job for the left, in that environment it becomes a newly learned instinct.

One word of caution though, if you never use your brakes with your hydro tractor, like I didn't for most of the time when I first got mine, the first time that you need the brakes it will not be instinctive.
I had a scare when I tried changing ranges on a slope and hit neutral instead, starting rolling down hill pretty quickly, took me a long moment to analyse the situation and think to myself, oh yeah that's what those pedals are for down there next to my left foot.
No panic, no searching for a brake with right foot, but it was a wake up call.

So my advice to those who claim to never need their brakes, just practice using them once in a while so your brain will remember what to do should the need arise.

JB.

 

[John Clark]

I have a Grand L 3130 and prefer the clutch on the left and brakes on the right. Why you ask, because I'm an old codger and all my life, the clutch was on the left and brakes were on the right. Fortunately I discovered the benefit of HST and no longer need brakes. That said, I did have one encounter on the snow where I needed the left 'toe' brake and simply used my left foot to press the left pedal. No brainer! Why all the fuss? If a 60 year old person can move his left foot over his right, why does it take 30 plus pages to to figure this out?:thumbsup:

 

[John Clark]

Sorry about the double response, but just realized that operators without hydrostatic drive may not realize that the tractor slows/stops as you release pressure on the hydrostatic control pedal. On my Kubota the brake pedals are located immediately above the control pedal, but they are rarely needed. If the need should arise to have both forward movement and an expedited turn radius, the control pedal can be used in combination with one of the split pedals to accelerate the turn.

I was a big fan of split brakes until 4WD came along. Now I use it mostly when using the front bucket to smooth gravel while backing-up, or near an edge in slippery terrain conditions. Kind of like doing the hokey-pokey and shaking it all about:laughing:.

JC

When your life flashes before your eyes, make sure you have plenty to watch :thumbsup: