Need to buy a disc

[Gale Hawkins]

I started to looking for a 7.5-8' 3 point disc like the old Ford Flex-i-hitch i sold 15 years ago and one used dealer told me the used stuff got cut up for scrap when it was so high so I am still looking for something cheap for the 265 MF. A pull type would not work as well for my small points.

 

[MMagis]

This rubs some folks the wrong way, particularly those trying to peddle "junk" to unknowing buyers.

It doesn't "rub us the wrong way". We just feel it's important to let folks know that it's not true. It's nothing more than your opinion, based on something I can't understand.

 

[foggy1111]

It doesn't "rub us the wrong way". We just feel it's important to let folks know that it's not true. It's nothing more than your opinion, based on something I can't understand.

X 2 I dont get your position Wolc....a disc blade and weight....is a disc blade and weight.

 

[jenkinsph]

Steve, how many acres would you say that you can till before having to replace the tines, the u joints, then the tines again, maybe a gear box etc?

Brian,
Hard to know for sure, I haven't worn either out yet. Between my Howard rotovator and the Deere tiller I have tilled up about 45 acres roughly. The Deere is faster and deeper though.

I have changed out disk blades that were cracked on the small light 3 pt disks though and that can be a good sized job. These cheap disks have thin blades that don't penetrate the ground well and are easier to break or crack.


I might add that if were talking even money I would rather have a new $3000 dollar tiller than a new $3000 dollar disk. Bear in mind the OP has a Kioti 45 hp tractor not a large heavy field tractor. He has a much better chance of utilizing the pto to get the power to the ground than the wheels with traction.

Now if you have a good quality offset disk and a good disk harrow and a larger frame/weight tractor this may be a lot closer to discern the difference. Add yet another implement like a chisel plow and the scenario changes again, way cheaper implement than either a tiller or disk.

From what I have gathered most people here have small tillers with shallow depth abilities and seem to assume that a tiller is only good enough for a small garden plot. Alot depends on the tiller as to what you can do and the same is true with a disk. I have pulled a cheap disk over land before that it would take a bloodhound to follow it and pulled a heavy offset disk over the same ground with good results.

My point to all of this is I fail to see where a disk is so much faster to complete the job than a tiller. I think for similar results the time should be about the same.

 

[foggy1111]

Brian,
Hard to know for sure, I haven't worn either out yet. Between my Howard rotovator and the Deere tiller I have tilled up about 45 acres roughly. The Deere is faster and deeper though.

I have changed out disk blades that were cracked on the small light 3 pt disks though and that can be a good sized job. These cheap disks have thin blades that don't penetrate the ground well and are easier to break or crack.


I might add that if were talking even money I would rather have a new $3000 dollar tiller than a new $3000 dollar disk. Bear in mind the OP has a Kioti 45 hp tractor not a large heavy field tractor. He has a much better chance of utilizing the pto to get the power to the ground than the wheels with traction.

Now if you have a good quality offset disk and a good disk harrow and a larger frame/weight tractor this may be a lot closer to discern the difference. Add yet another implement like a chisel plow and the scenario changes again, way cheaper implement than either a tiller or disk.

From what I have gathered most people here have small tillers with shallow depth abilities and seem to assume that a tiller is only good enough for a small garden plot. Alot depends on the tiller as to what you can do and the same is true with a disk. I have pulled a cheap disk over land before that it would take a bloodhound to follow it and pulled a heavy offset disk over the same ground with good results.

My point to all of this is I fail to see where a disk is so much faster to complete the job than a tiller. I think for similar results the time should be about the same.

I agree that for small acreage a tiller may be the best choice....and I prefer to operate my tiller over other tillage means. BUT.....I live in an area where many farmers run 1000 acres or more....and you wont find ANY of them pulling tillers around......whereas you will see lots of discs and field cultivators prepping the fields. I think the cost of operating a tiller is prohibiitve for more than 20 acres or so. (?)

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Steve, I often forget that many guys have the very light weight disks that are about, well you know. In most of those cases, hands down the tiller is going to be better all around. And you may be right about cost, you would rather have a $2500 tiller than a $2500 set of disks. But I believe that a $6000 set of disks is going to till more acreage before repair than a $6000 tiller. Myself, I till the small and or awkward areas that I have and disk the larger areas that I want done. I should be disking about 60 acres in the next week or so, I will not be using my tiller.

 

[jenkinsph]

Brian,
It would be interesting to know how many acres you can disk in eight hours. And at what depth how well pulverised etc.

I would also like to know how fast a person can till with a big tiller with 30" rotors that tills 12" deep. frontier lists one 13' wide about like that. RC13 I think.


If I were to go ahead and purchase a pull type tandem disk and offset disk for about $12,000 total I would be upset if it did not work faster than a tiller. This assumes the same ground, same day, same depth and same degree of finish. I have looked for used 8' tandem disks with 22" blades and have not found them anywhere close to me. I have also looked for 6' heavy duty offset disks to no avail. So I am a little leary of making a move.


The tandem disk I have thought about is the Frontier DH15 8' with 22" notched blades on 9" spacings about 1900 lbs so 95 lbs per blade weight.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Brian,
It would be interesting to know how many acres you can disk in eight hours. And at what depth how well pulverised etc.

I would also like to know how fast a person can till with a big tiller with 30" rotors that tills 12" deep. frontier lists one 13' wide about like that. RC13 I think.


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With our 6', 8' or 12' disk, all have 22" blades and with which tractor, D6 or 7520? 8-9" deep, equivalent to a rototiller if the ground moisture is just right. What part of the land, rolling hills of sort of flat?

I'm not sure that I want to purchase the tractor that is going to turn that tiller.

 

[jenkinsph]

Brian,

With the 8' disk and the 7520, rolling hills.

Do you have a tiller that is matched for this tractor too?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Brian,

With the 8' disk and the 7520, rolling hills.

Do you have a tiller that is matched for this tractor too?

No, I missed out on an 8 foot JD tiller a couple of years ago for $1000. It was a few hours away and back then I just never had the time to go get it. I will measure out 10 acres and time it. It will be interesting to know, instead of just guessing. Got to go, dinner.:thumbsup: