How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture?

   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture?
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#21  
Having dug much further than 2" before I am fairly certain that the sandy soil that is on the top and what is at 2" is virtually the same.
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture? #23  
Ya me too. curious minds want to know.

Wedge

don't have to be a desert to get cactus. there's plenty of it here in florida..

soundguy
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture?
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#24  
Thanks again for all the input everyone. Can anyone tell me if it is possible to rent a sprayer? I wouldn't really have any other need for one than for this application, so I hate to buy one. Also, it sounds like a spot sprayer is what is used most often, but would it be better to use a sprayer with booms on each side?

Thanks.
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture? #25  
Thanks again for all the input everyone. Can anyone tell me if it is possible to rent a sprayer? I wouldn't really have any other need for one than for this application, so I hate to buy one. Also, it sounds like a spot sprayer is what is used most often, but would it be better to use a sprayer with booms on each side?

Thanks.

Can't say for your area, but sprayers can be rented around here. The downside to using a broadcast (boom) sprayer is that any plant that is targeted by your chemical will die. Spot spraying allows you to be more selective.

With that said - if you're wanting to renovate that pasture your best option may be to broadcast spray the appropriate chemicals to kill everything. After waiting the necessary amount of time use a no-till drill to plant a good pasture mix. Timing may be an issue for you; here in KY, I sprayed a field w/ Buccaneer (a RoundUp-type chemical) in mid September, waited 2 weeks and then drilled a grass/clover mix. By the next spring I was able to allow the horses some limited time on the pasture, and by the second spring it was fully established. I plan on doing the same on another pasture this coming fall.
 
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Where do you rent the sprayer from in KY? Thanks again
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture? #27  
Where do you rent the sprayer from in KY? Thanks again

We have a local Hardware/Farm Supply that we rent from. Many areas have Farm Bureau or other Coops that rent these rigs out at cost. Ken Sweet
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture? #28  
We have a local Hardware/Farm Supply that we rent from. Many areas have Farm Bureau or other Coops that rent these rigs out at cost. Ken Sweet

What he said. :D

I also rent the no-till seed drill from the local conservation district. Of course, you have to have a large enough tractor (with remote) to use it. Up til now I've borrowed a neighbors tractor; this year I'll be using my M6040.
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture? #29  
What he said. :D

I also rent the no-till seed drill from the local conservation district. Of course, you have to have a large enough tractor (with remote) to use it. Up til now I've borrowed a neighbors tractor; this year I'll be using my M6040.

My Oldest Son lives just south of you. He is in Stanford. The Lincoln County Farm Bureau there, has 6 No-Till drills and several inline haylage tubers and he does prevenative Maintainence on them and also keeps some of the equipment at his farm for the Bureau to rent to his neighbors. I wish my county was as aggressive as Lincoln County about trying to help the farmer. Ken Sweet
 
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ok, I found a buddy that has a 60-gallon PTO sprayer. I am going to borrow it. The question I have now is what chemical mixture should I use. I really am not opposed to killing everything in the pasture and starting from scratch. I just got a nice disc harrow, so I can put it to good use turning the ground over and putting out some grass seed. What do y'all think I should use???
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture? #31  
ok, I found a buddy that has a 60-gallon PTO sprayer. I am going to borrow it. The question I have now is what chemical mixture should I use. I really am not opposed to killing everything in the pasture and starting from scratch. I just got a nice disc harrow, so I can put it to good use turning the ground over and putting out some grass seed. What do y'all think I should use???

Around here we use glyphosphate (RoundUp-type) herbicides to kill off everything in a field. My chemical of choice in that class is Bucanneer Plus. I don't believe it will work against prickly pear cactus, though; for that you need to use something like Grazon or Tordon 22K. I also don't know if either of those can be tank mixed with Bucanneer Plus so be sure to ask the appropriate questions of your ag chemical supplier or extension agent.
 
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Alright, I have an agent from the Clemson Extension coming out to take a look at it first o next week. I hate to wait that long. I'd really like to spray this weekend, bt I reckon if I want to do it right I should wait for him to come take a look at it. Thanks for all the help y'all, I will let you know what I figure out.
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture? #34  
Alright, I have an agent from the Clemson Extension coming out to take a look at it first o next week. I hate to wait that long. I'd really like to spray this weekend, bt I reckon if I want to do it right I should wait for him to come take a look at it. Thanks for all the help y'all, I will let you know what I figure out.

Ultimately, that's probably your wisest course of action. Be sure to pick his brain about everything you can think of regarding your property while he's there.
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture? #35  
have your extension agent meet you out there.. ID the nusiance plants, native plants and cacti.. then suggest a spray.

soundguy
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture? #36  
I turned my bucket on edge and used it smiliar to a bulldozer and pushed the prickly pear into large piles... I then began a spraying program (google prickly pear control) using a blue dye with the spray. Spray the piles and the individual plants... it's a project that will take years. You won't rid yourself of PP but can manage to control it... Good luck,
 
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I'm going to wait to see what the agent from the extension has to say, but right now I am really liking what I am reading about an herbicide called "Surmount." It is a mixture of Tordon 22k and some other stuff that is supposed to work well on cactus. I am afraid you are right Dougster, and I may be buying my own sprayer before this is all said and done in order to do regular maintenance and keep the cactus population in check. Thanks again for the help everyone.
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture? #38  
I'm going to wait to see what the agent from the extension has to say, but right now I am really liking what I am reading about an herbicide called "Surmount." It is a mixture of Tordon 22k and some other stuff that is supposed to work well on cactus. I am afraid you are right Dougster, and I may be buying my own sprayer before this is all said and done in order to do regular maintenance and keep the cactus population in check. Thanks again for the help everyone.

That Tordon is potent stuff, Be carefull about runoff to areas where you want to grow other things. I used some 20 years ago on Multifloral Roses and that old version will about sterilize the soil for a while. Ken Sweet
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture? #39  
I turned my bucket on edge and used it smiliar to a bulldozer and pushed the prickly pear into large piles... I then began a spraying program (google prickly pear control) using a blue dye with the spray. Spray the piles and the individual plants... it's a project that will take years. You won't rid yourself of PP but can manage to control it... Good luck,

NOOOOOO!!!! Not the prickly Pears.. I had prickly pear Jelly once ... man that stuff sure was good. Wish you could have made some before the little guys met their demise. Coulda started a prickly pear Jelly farm :licking:
 
   / How to remove 2" of topsoil in pasture?
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NOOOOOO!!!! Not the prickly Pears.. I had prickly pear Jelly once ... man that stuff sure was good. Wish you could have made some before the little guys met their demise. Coulda started a prickly pear Jelly farm :licking:

You're more than welcome to come down to SC and harvest all the prickly pear out of my pasture to make all the jelly you want. Seriously, in my search for how to kill this crap I have read a number of people wanting to plant it, or protect it for whatever reason. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want this junk in their yard, pasture, field, wherever. It frustrates me that someone planting the crap somewhere in my vicinity may be the root cause of my huge nuisance!:mad:
 

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