Woods BH6000 or new tractor

[newbury]

I currently have a BX1500 with a loader 54"deck turfs and 175 hrs on the clock. The dilemma I am wrestling is I have several jobs to do at my house and my in-laws where a backhoe will save many man hours of digging, retaining walls, 300 feet of water line, etc.

Will the combo do what you want in the time frame you want to?
As the linked pic shows a

BX1500 with a backhoe is a pretty small backhoe on a very small tractor which will take many hours to move much dirt.

Even my setup is on the small side

But I have tradeoffs.

Unless you NEED a bigger tractor why not look at getting a mini-ex to supplement your 1500?

 

[bxkubota]

Will the combo do what you want in the time frame you want to?
As the linked pic shows a

BX1500 with a backhoe is a pretty small backhoe on a very small tractor which will take many hours to move much dirt.

Even my setup is on the small side

But I have tradeoffs.

Unless you NEED a bigger tractor why not look at getting a mini-ex to supplement your 1500?

Well Wallace Equipments offer of my tractor and $8500 has me thinking trading. Of course I need to add a mower deck. My local Kubota dealer has a BX25 with a tag for $19500 with no deck on it but I am assuming it has a deck for the price which I think is way high. With that in mind I am no where near the Wallace price for a local dealer. I am going to have to try Barlows and Messicks on Monday and see what kind of trade / price they can offer and if selling outright is better than trading when in comes to pricing with these two dealers. I have the dollar amount in my head where I want to be and the wife knows I work my ***** off so she lets me buy whatever I want (within reason). I don't want to have two or three machines sitting around such as an excavator, dedicated TLB, etc, that is why I think the BX25 can do everything I will need and take up minimal garage space. I did look at the B series but with the backhoe the price is too hard to justify.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

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[JOHNTHOMAS]

Well Wallace Equipments offer of my tractor and $8500 has me thinking trading. Of course I need to add a mower deck. My local Kubota dealer has a BX25 with a tag for $19500 with no deck on it but I am assuming it has a deck for the price which I think is way high. With that in mind I am no where near the Wallace price for a local dealer. I am going to have to try Barlows and Messicks on Monday and see what kind of trade / price they can offer and if selling outright is better than trading when in comes to pricing with these two dealers. I have the dollar amount in my head where I want to be and the wife knows I work my ***** off so she lets me buy whatever I want (within reason). I don't want to have two or three machines sitting around such as an excavator, dedicated TLB, etc, that is why I think the BX25 can do everything I will need and take up minimal garage space. I did look at the B series but with the backhoe the price is too hard to justify.

I recognize you! Barlows has been willing to sell/trade 10 times to/with me in the last 6 years. From what you've written here it seems you need/want a BX25. It will serve you well for many years or until the trade fever hits you again in a year or two but they'll take it back in trade for some thing else at that time. Happy trading to you. Keep trading, it's a great stress reliever or can be for some of us. It's just some thing we do, not to be proud or ashamed of.:thumbsup:

 

[TripleR]

I posted a thread a year or so ago asking what possible uses I would have for a BH and got no response other than great for stumps and ditches which I needed neither one done. (Mine isn't great for stumps) You know I recently traded my B3200 to a BX25 to move to my rental property with the 6 septic tanks. Well, the BX25 is still at my home. Good side is I'm using it alot for digging plants up, digging to install plants, digging hill side to level it out, digging down reserve dirt pile to scoop up with bucket, digging out clay from garden and then filling with scoops of black dirt and moving some rocks on hill side that pushing with FEL is scary. Have I gotten $5000 of value out of it, no. Will I, depends on how much back pain it saves me. Bad side, my Brother next door needs holes dug for some reason or the other pretty often and my Nephew that lives down the street and saw my BX25 sitting out needs ditches for gutter drain pipes dug. I noticed your remark to the future and me the skeptic about the value of a BH has to grin.
Digging, digging holes that's what they do. If you don't need holes dug, I doubt you need one. Now just think if there are any holes you'd dig if it was really easy and a bit of fun digging them. Tomorrow could be the future.:laughing:

My dad bought a Case backhoe many years ago and once all our projects were finished, he passed away and we just kept it. It hasn't been used in so many years it won't run, so on the two occasions we have needed one we rented it. When my brother retires in a year or two he plans on working on the backhoe. The sands of time have not been kind and I would need a cherry picker to put me in the seat, so the "easy" part has sailed on that one, but now that you mention it there is that place down by the barn and you know there up by one of the ponds:drool:

 

[Tom_H]

Barlows has been willing to sell/trade 10 times to/with me in the last 6 years....Keep trading, it's a great stress reliever....

O.K. Please understand that I completely respect the right of every person to make his own choices. Personally, I could not do this for several reasons.

Firstly, I just do not have the money constantly to swap machines and take the financial losses.

Secondly, if I did have the money, I would feel that I was being a poor steward of the resources that had been entrusted to me. I would feel that I was taking away from the overall resources of my family and preventing them from having what they need. Though you and I have our differences in how we see the metaphysical, we also share a belief in there being something greater than ourselves. Ethically, I could not do this because I feel a certain responsibility not to be wasteful and to use resources for an ultimate good.

Finally, I feel the responsibility carefully to evaluate my needs, and make choices based on the evaluation of those needs. Now this is not to say that life does not require some mid-course adjustments, but if I found myself changing my mind constantly, trading cars hundreds of times and tractors dozens of times, I would then question my own ability to make good judgments and to commit to and stick with something.

If this way of living fits with your own value system, fine. Personally, I if I lived this way, I would be wracked with guilt and feel that I was living a life of waste and excess. John, I like and respect you. You have every right to live the way you do. I, however, simply could not live that way.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

O.K. Please understand that I completely respect the right of every person to make his own choices. Personally, I could not do this for several reasons.

Firstly, I just do not have the money constantly to swap machines and take the financial losses. I don't spend money on any of the vices or hobbies of my peers. I give generously to promote my beliefs and those in need and the Lord has blessed me. I've spent mostly on travel, cars and tractors. All my land purchases have turned into money makers even though that has not been my plan/objective, some times my car purchases have to. So far none of the tractors have, well, yes they have in savings over having to hire someone else to do the jobs.

Secondly, if I did have the money, I would feel that I was being a poor steward of the resources that had been entrusted to me. I would feel that I was taking away from the overall resources of my family and preventing them from having what they need. Though you and I have our differences in how we see the metaphysical, we also share a belief in there being something greater than ourselves. Ethically, I could not do this because I feel a certain responsibility not to be wasteful and to use resources for an ultimate good. I provide my family everything they need and most of their wants. Fortunately their wants are not extravagant. The tractors, cars and land are all still there and are not wasted. The used ones go on in near new condition for others to use and enjoy that may not be able to pay for a new one. I feel I am helping those even outside of my family. Maybe you have a bigger family than me. I had no children but do have one step daughter and two grandchildren and a niece and nephew that are like grands. I take care of their needs and alot of their wants and still pay a few hundred dollars a month to Kubota CC.

Finally, I feel the responsibility carefully to evaluate my needs, and make choices based on the evaluation of those needs. Now this is not to say that life does not require some mid-course adjustments, but if I found myself changing my mind constantly, trading cars hundreds of times and tractors dozens of times, I would then question my own ability to make good judgments and to commit to and stick with something.
I understand your feeling of questioning yourself and your decisions. As a Counselor I recognize and Counsel individuals that are always questioning themselves. I also accept my decision making abilities and have been paid well for my talents for several years. We just have different levels of self confidence and different personalities. My brother is like you and I'm like me. I've made some choices and stuck with them way to long and been miserable. At this point in life I'm not going to be miserable one minute longer than I have to if spending my resources will alleviate that misery. When I didn't or don't have the resources then that's a different thing. I've stuck to what's important all my life but tractors and cars aren't one of the things I consider important. They are fun items that I like but I sure don't love them. I love people and that's about it. All the other stuff is fluff and can only bring a moment of pleasure, then it's gone.
If this way of living fits with your own value system, fine. Personally, I if I lived this way, I would be wracked with guilt and feel that I was living a life of waste and excess. John, I like and respect you. You have every right to live the way you do. I, however, simply could not live that way.

I also like and respect you. I always appreciate our discourses and do not take any offense. Like I've said before, I'd love to sit on the porch and discuss our different backgrounds, personalities and life experiences. I totally believe we'd come together to share those things we agree on more than those things we disagree on. We both appreciate Kubotas, I like what they will do and apparently you do to. You may love yours but I don't mine. I just like it while I have it and appreciate how it can help me save my back and take my mind off of the problems I have to deal with in other peoples lifes.
Over the years I've been told how much my car trading has cost me by others. When the calculator came out the difference has always been some what smaller than those that see life and money different than me have thought it would be.
Every item that I have bought over the years has a dollar amount paid for it. Then a dollar amount I sold it for. There is a number that comes out after the one is subtracted from the other one. It can be divided by the time I owned it for a true monthly cost or profit to own it. I look at that figure and ask myself was it worth that much per month of ownership and most of the time I feel real good about the number and occassionally I don't but most of the time I do. I also give alot of stuff I buy away and I get pleasure out of that.
I don't waste resources. I spend the money I earned working one, two and some times three jobs for 35 years but my family is all provided for now and in the future. What more can a person do than that? I believe money given to people is not appreciated as much as money that is earned. I have earned all that I have by God's help, hard work, self deprivation (at times) and taking some risks after much research. I'm really not that much of an impulse buyer. I study then I jump. I agree it doesn't take me days or weeks to do my due diligence and research but I do do it.
Come to Ky and we'll talk.:thumbsup: I'm one of the happiest guys I know and most people that know me think the same thing. Many also know they can come to me when they need help.

 

[Will_C]

As has been previously posted, it seems like you are looking at a $4500 decision. What to do is up to you. I would trade for a new machine-but that's just me.

Will

 

[KeithInSpace]

...get a BX2660 with a loader.

There's a difference, but not enough to go through the expense of a trade without getting a BH out of the deal. With a perfectly good BX1500, you wouldn't notice enough of a difference to say "OK, NOW I can do this job...I don't need no stinking backhoe!" You still just have a 4' wide loader.

Using a FEL in place of a BH is like using a serving spoon to smear you Beluga Kaviar. You can...but...

If you get the BX2660, we'll see a post in 8 months asking about adding a Woods BH6000 to a BX2660, started by you.

You're money ahead just going to the BX25 now.

 

[TripleR]

There's a difference, but not enough to go through the expense of a trade without getting a BH out of the deal. With a perfectly good BX1500, you wouldn't notice enough of a difference to say "OK, NOW I can do this job...I don't need no stinking backhoe!" You still just have a 4' wide loader.

Using a FEL in place of a BH is like using a serving spoon to smear you Beluga Kaviar. You can...but...

If you get the BX2660, we'll see a post in 8 months asking about adding a Woods BH6000 to a BX2660, started by you.

You're money ahead just going to the BX25 now.

But is a BX25 better than a BX2660 with a Woods backhoe? Just curious.