New considering custom bailing

[schmism]

I prefer 4x5 as they are easyer to handle than 1200lb monsters.

Ive had my feild net wrapped and string tied. Seemed it had more to do with how the bailer was set up as a tight string tied held up just as well as a loose net wrapped.

They say net wrapped have less spoilage on in the outside of the bales if stored outside, another reason why people like the larger 5x5 or 5x6 bales. mine arnt outside but about 6 months so not that big of an issue for me.

 

[civesnedfield]

DOT number i know but I will mention you are one of the few who knows about the motor carrier number and it's under 150miles so its not commercial it all falls under farm use (farm tags, farm insurance) I know there's self employment tax I have payed it before and guy your not the only one who knows service is required I worked for a guy bailing for a few years I've seen equipment break down but if you take care of it early it saves time and money. And a misspelled word who cares when its always spelled bail then it comes first hand you don't always catch the small things.

It is only FARM USE if the equipment is being used in the daily activities on YOUR FARM. Any other use is considered COMMERCIAL.

 

[sweettractors]

That's what I was talking about when I used the word "silage". I never forgot seeing a hay barn, or shed, burn when I was just a kid, before I was 10 years old. There was a rather large shed (poles and roof; no sides) in Purcell, OK, full of hay and on fire when we drove by on the highway. A week later, we drove by again and it was still smoldering. Of course, in the late '90s, I was a member of our country volunteer fire department. Hay fires are tough to extinguish, but "silage" or "haylage" was so uncommon in the neighborhood that I had no experience, and of course never knew of any to burn.

But here's a couple of pictures of the best silage I've seen. That's 100% corn, cut and ground up, stalks, cobs, and all; ground or crushed so thoroughly there's not a whole kernel of corn anywhere. This sure beats wrapping and baling.

Now, that is a Pile of silage. Once they run over with heavy tractors to push out internal oxygen, usually with duals loaded to the max, they will cover that tightly in plastic to keep out the oxygen. Then over a few weeks it turns into the sweetest smell and the best feed on earth. Ken Sweet

 

[Bird]

Now, that is a Pile of silage.

Yep, 301 x 251? 65,000 tons of corn silage, 45 high, owned by a 5 member consortium of dairies. And as you said, covered with black plastic, held down by many, many weights that "looked like" (but weren't actually) halves of tires. That was just SE of Hillsboro, TX, on July 7, 2002.

 

[Duffster]

Yep, 301 x 251? 65,000 tons of corn silage, 45 high, owned by a 5 member consortium of dairies. And as you said, covered with black plastic, held down by many, many weights that "looked like" (but weren't actually) halves of tires. That was just SE of Hillsboro, TX, on July 7, 2002.

You sure about that?

 

[Bird]

You sure about that?

Yep, I sure thought they were tire halves, black rings, when I saw them from a distance, but up close was another matter.

 

[Duffster]

Yep, I sure thought they were tire halves, black rings, when I saw them from a distance, but up close was another matter.

I wonder what they where then?

What they use around here really aren't halves as much as just the sidewall, or just skeletons like in that one picture you posted.

 

[LoneCowboy]

DOT number i know but I will mention you are one of the few who knows about the motor carrier number and it's under 150miles so its not commercial it all falls under farm use (farm tags, farm insurance)

No it's not.

You are doing commercial work for other people off your own property.
All the commercial rules apply

You don't need an M/C number or a UCC number because you'll be a private intrastate carrier (you aren't carrying other people's goods) and as long as you don't cross a state line.

 

[Bird]

I wonder what they where then?

What they use around here really aren't halves as much as just the sidewall, or just skeletons like in that one picture you posted.

Well, I thought they were half a tire, but then when I got a bit closer I noticed they were flat, or almost flat. You know a half a tire laid with the "cupped" side up will hold water, and what they were using didn't look like it would. However, maybe I didn't get close enough because you could very well be right about just the sidewall.

 

[Cline bailing]

No it's not.

You are doing commercial work for other people off your own property.
All the commercial rules apply

You don't need an M/C number or a UCC number because you'll be a private intrastate carrier (you aren't carrying other people's goods) and as long as you don't cross a state line.

So what your saying everyone that bails hay must be commercial tagged but all I have ever seen are farm tagged and sod growers who deliver and install sod must be commercial but all I've seen in Oklahoma have farm tags. Majority of use is private it's farm use and M/C is a touchy part it's hard to get all the facts you need.