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   / New considering custom bailing #71  
Farm Vehicle = CMV

Only if you drive outside of 150 mile radius or are over 26k, in Texas the farm limit is 34K. Yes farming is a business and it doesn't matter if you're cutting hay on your land,

true, not required

on a lease

true, not required, considered the same as your land

or custom baling as long as you stay within 150 mile radius on under the GVWR.

wrong.
Now, you're commercial. Same thing if you were custom farming for other people and doing their spraying. You don't need a commercial applicator's license if it's your land (or lease, considered the same), but if you do it for other's, then you need it.

You (and others) have quoted that you aren't a CMV if you are plated as a farm vehicle (which doesn't mean it doesn't have to meet safety and weight rules BTW), but the problem here is although he may plate it as a farm vehicle, he isn't doing it legally.
It's a commercial business, it should be plated commercially.
 
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#72  
It would never be intrastate commerce I would haul my equipment for me. Even when hauling hay its my hay until I get to who ever will buy it. Now you dont have to stay 150 miles from home all the time you can drive anywhere in the country but the majority of use is farm. I don't know how other states do things but in OK farm use is the use of equipment on A farm not the owner of the equipments farm.
 
   / New considering custom bailing #73  
And a misspelled word who cares when its always spelled bail then it comes first hand you don't always catch the small things.
Well, Oak Logde Apartments did finally fix their sign. ;) In a business, or even otherwise, one might as well not give any excuse for a negative impression. If that happens some will cut you loose, and you will lose.
larry
 
   / New considering custom bailing #74  
It would never be intrastate commerce I would haul my equipment for me. Even when hauling hay its my hay until I get to who ever will buy it. Now you dont have to stay 150 miles from home all the time you can drive anywhere in the country but the majority of use is farm. I don't know how other states do things but in OK farm use is the use of equipment on A farm not the owner of the equipments farm.

How do you figure that it is not intrastate commerce? If you are hauling hay to sell, that is (intrastate) commerce. (Why would the hay be yours?) If you are hauling equipment to do custom work, that is (intrastate) commerce.

If you have info that says a custom harvester is farmer in OK and that OK farmers are exempt from DOT#'s please post it.
 
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#75  
How do you figure that it is not intrastate commerce? If you are hauling hay to sell, that is (intrastate) commerce. (Why would the hay be yours?) If you are hauling equipment to do custom work, that is (intrastate) commerce.

If you have info that says a custom harvester is farmer in OK and that OK farmers are exempt from DOT#'s please post it.

Nobody ever said they're exempt from DOT #'s. We're exempt from Motor Carrier.
 
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#77  
Your right, you said it wouldn't be intrastate commerce. :confused2:

Everything I haul is mine im not hauling for anyone else the hay is mine until it's unloaded and im paid. Im not a middle man delivering commerce. Im not confused you said "If you have info that says a custom harvester is farmer in OK and that OK farmers are exempt from DOT#'s please post it.":laughing:
 
   / New considering custom bailing #78  
Everything I haul is mine im not hauling for anyone else the hay is mine until it's unloaded and im paid. Im not a middle man delivering commerce. :

Super duper
that makes you a private carrier
as we've told you before.



Here's the phone number for Oklahoma field office of FMCSA: 405-605-6047
 
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#79  
Super duper
that makes you a private carrier
as we've told you before.



Here's the phone number for Oklahoma field office of FMCSA: 405-605-6047

Private I do not have to have a motor carrier number. Farmers do not have to have a motor carrier number. You can look up a phone number good for you but why waste your time when I don't need motor carrier number.
 
   / New considering custom bailing #80  
Private I do not have to have a motor carrier number. Farmers do not have to have a motor carrier number. You can look up a phone number good for you but why waste your time when I don't need motor carrier number.

a private carrier
and a motor carrier (m/c) number are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

Just because you're not a motor carrier does not mean you are not a private carrier.

and you're not a farmer (well, you might be, but this business isn't).

but never mind
You continue on in ignorance, I tried to help, We gave you the links to the laws, I even gave you the phone number of the place to get the answers. But noooooooooooooooooooooo
So when you're on the side of the road a year or two or three from now, out of service by the DOT officers, forced to pay a ton in back taxes and fines. You try and remember what we tried to tell you.
 

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