20x20 Shed/mini barn with a loft

   / 20x20 Shed/mini barn with a loft #41  
No, what I was concerned with is the nails that hold your headers to the SIDE of the posts, are supporting the weight of the trusses and roof. Here, we have to have the headers on TOP of verticle support studs or posts. Otherwise ALL the weight is supported by the nails and not the beam itself.

Like I said, I know they do it differently in different places, probably still safe, just not what I'm used to seeing. I am not a contractor, just mentioning what they make us do. I am building a very similar structure, only 18 x 18. It will have seven 6x6 posts, set in post Strongwall anchors, that are set in about 16" of concrete. The posts are topped with 6x8 beams between the 9 foot spans and a 6x10 beam across the 18' span. It is a simple truss roof, with composition shingles. Again, my 6x lumber has to sit on TOP of the 6x6 posts.
Interesting.
 
   / 20x20 Shed/mini barn with a loft
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Got it. That is interesting. Add some pics when you get a chance.
 
   / 20x20 Shed/mini barn with a loft #43  
Will do. The slab is done for the spa cover, but the shop comes first. it has the money priority.
 
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I finished installing the siding on the bottom part of the shed this weekend and started to stain it. I will finish the staining this week and complete the loft floor this coming weekend. I want to finish the loft floor before I work on the second floor siding and loft doors, as I will have a more stable working platform.
 

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   / 20x20 Shed/mini barn with a loft #45  
I must say this is a fine looking building. Kudo's for doing so much yourself. I do not have the ability to do it all. I will be doing the siding, wiring, and roofing of my workshop. I am having the slab and framing done by pro's. The slab is complete, waiting for them to put the lumber on it.

I am also getting the "attic" trusses, but mine is a 6-12 pitch so it won't be quite as roomy. My shop size is 24x30.
 
   / 20x20 Shed/mini barn with a loft #46  
I will be just south of Columbus this Oct, to deer hunt with my brother.
 
   / 20x20 Shed/mini barn with a loft #47  
I love the fourth pic, with the setting (or rising?) sun in the reflectors.

Yes, the shed is coming along just great. What are you using for the stain? Will you re-stain every couple of years to prevent graying? And what material (stone, dirt, etc) will you be using around the foundation at grade? Will it slope gently over many feet, or abruptly? Just curious.

I also had a tractor question. I have a New Holland TC34DA with the original 60 inch bucket; it is NOT the same bucket you have (has a round, tubular top edge/rail, not the flat one on your bucket). I am interested (I think) in getting a tooth bar like the one you have. Where did you get yours? With the tractor or after market? It's in your very first photos, so I'm guessing it came with the tractor.

I want the teeth for digging up small trees, large bushes (those god awful Russian Olive, honeysuckle, big freakin' roses, buckthorn, etc.). Will this tooth bar help me (vs. the smooth edge I have now) by allowing me to get under the roots more easily? Have you used your tooth bar for this sort of purpose (yet)? On the other hand, do the teeth "interfere" with anything you want to do?

Thanks for the help, Seth. Looking forward to your advice. If anybody else would like to weigh in on the value and use of a tooth bar, please do.

~Allen
 
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I love the fourth pic, with the setting (or rising?) sun in the reflectors.

Yes, the shed is coming along just great. What are you using for the stain? Will you re-stain every couple of years to prevent graying? And what material (stone, dirt, etc) will you be using around the foundation at grade? Will it slope gently over many feet, or abruptly? Just curious.

I also had a tractor question. I have a New Holland TC34DA with the original 60 inch bucket; it is NOT the same bucket you have (has a round, tubular top edge/rail, not the flat one on your bucket). I am interested (I think) in getting a tooth bar like the one you have. Where did you get yours? With the tractor or after market? It's in your very first photos, so I'm guessing it came with the tractor.

I want the teeth for digging up small trees, large bushes (those god awful Russian Olive, honeysuckle, big freakin' roses, buckthorn, etc.). Will this tooth bar help me (vs. the smooth edge I have now) by allowing me to get under the roots more easily? Have you used your tooth bar for this sort of purpose (yet)? On the other hand, do the teeth "interfere" with anything you want to do?

Thanks for the help, Seth. Looking forward to your advice. If anybody else would like to weigh in on the value and use of a tooth bar, please do.

~Allen

Allen,

The stain is a cedar color toner, Olympic brand. I need to add second coat. I plan on applying the stain every few years, as the guarantee (for what it's worth) on the stain states a minimum of three year's protection. The side I have stained in the pictures is the west side, which takes a beating from the weather, as it is currently exposed where it sits. Rolling it on doesn't take too much time.

As for the tooth bar, I got it with the tractor. I was on the fence about getting one, and thought that I would take it if I could get it negotiated in the purchase at no extra charge, which I was able to do. I have used it for the very purposes you stated, with success. I am able to pop up some nuisance shrubs at the root. The only thing I was concerned about was using the loader to scoop material when the pile was getting low. It took some practice, but I got to the point where I was comfortable having the teeth on, and they weren't digging in too much. I will confess that I have only used, not owned, buckets in the past that did not have teeth, so I didn't have much experience either way, but they have come in handy to this point, and haven't gotten in the way too much. I think in time, they will be an afterthought. If I want, I can remove them, but that hasn't been necessary.

The building has some natural slope to it, that is difficult to tell in the pictures, but I will add a gentle grade up to the middle of the second treated 2x8. I plan on using plain old dirt and topsoil. I have a large pile waiting to be moved when I am ready. The other reason I am going gentle, is I plan on adding "wings" to the sides of the shed down the road, and that will be less dirt I have to move at that point.

I added a few pics to prove that even a novice can learn to successfully operate these things. This was part of the excavation of the shed site.

Hope this helps.

Seth
 

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   / 20x20 Shed/mini barn with a loft #50  
My sister and her husband, own the Renick Family Market on 33 (Circleville), and my brother lives about 10 miles from there.
 

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