The cost of Hydraulic hose's ... WOW!!

[Discount Hydraulic Hose]

I will repeat what others have said about getting an estimate. Especially in a business like hydraulics, where there are so many independent local vendors and a wide range of prices, you should know exactly what you're going to be paying before your hoses are made.

In fact, I would take it one step farther and say that assembling a hose is not like a troubleshooting an engine. There should be NO unexpected costs. Your supplier knows what his material costs, and he knows what his labor costs. Assembling a hose is a straightforward process. If your supplier can't or won't tell you beforehand exactly how much he's going to charge, you should not be doing business with him.

I was curious how our prices at DiscountHydraulicHose.com would compare to the prices you paid your supplier, so I ran some numbers using our current catalog prices and assembly charges. For the sake of comparison, I spec'ed 3/8" I.D. Hydraulic Hose (SAE 100R2AT, 2-wire braid, 4,000 psi max. working pressure) with 1/2" NPTF male pipe fittings (to connect with the 1/2" AG couplers found on most tractors).

Two 18 foot hose assemblies @ $33.30 each
Two 6 foot hose assemblies @ $23.30 each
Two complete sets of 1/2" AG couplers @ $15.52 each
Two extra male couples @ $5.19 each

Altogether, four hoses plus the couplers would have cost $154.62 plus S&H.

Best of all, you would have had this quote BEFORE we made your hoses.

 

[looknlearn]

I'm not trying to derail the discussion, but I have a quick question. Can you reuse used hoses that have the fittings cut off? Reason being, I was at the local junkyard( which is in the city of Buffalo NY) and found a John Deere round bailer off in the corner. It had burned but there was about 15 -20 feet of good hoses that ran inside the tongue where it had not gotten hot. Are they any good?

By the way I got off a good electronic acuator and two hydraulics(one bad,one good) from the bailer for less than ten bucks. (I don't think they knew what they were)

 

[evo803]

I provide the hoses n fittings and take them to the cannery and have one of the mechanics crimp them for me. For a few crab, get all my hoses made up for me.
Rick:thumbsup:

I wish alot more of this bartering/trading was done ,in my area no one would even think of doing this and I think its a shame. I would love to build say a piece of furniture or weld something or paint something for the guy to make some hoses for me.

Sorry OT

 

[Discount Hydraulic Hose]

I'm not trying to derail the discussion, but I have a quick question. Can you reuse used hoses that have the fittings cut off? Reason being, I was at the local junkyard( which is in the city of Buffalo NY) and found a John Deere round bailer off in the corner. It had burned but there was about 15 -20 feet of good hoses that ran inside the tongue where it had not gotten hot. Are they any good?

By the way I got off a good electronic acuator and two hydraulics(one bad,one good) from the bailer for less than ten bucks. (I don't think they knew what they were)

Generally, you can reuse a section of hose, as long as you cut off the damaged section, and attach the new fittings properly. You should also try and clean out the hose if possible. There may be a lot of dirt and debris in there, and if you can't be sure your hose is clean, it's not worth saving a few dollars at the risk of damaging more expensive components.

In the case you've described, I would run fast in the other direction. I would never reuse a hose from a piece of burned out equipment in a junkyard. The hose may appear OK to you, but is it really?

You can buy 1/2" ID SAE 100R2AT Hydraulic Hose for less than $1.50 per foot. Is saving $15 to $20 really worth the risk of used hose from a questionable source.? At best, a hose failure and leak of a few quarts of hydraulic fluid would probably cost you more than you saved. At worst, you wind up contaminating your system and having to replace something a LOT more expensive than a few feet of hydraulic hose.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I'm not trying to derail the discussion, but I have a quick question. Can you reuse used hoses that have the fittings cut off? Reason being, I was at the local junkyard( which is in the city of Buffalo NY) and found a John Deere round bailer off in the corner. It had burned but there was about 15 -20 feet of good hoses that ran inside the tongue where it had not gotten hot. Are they any good?

By the way I got off a good electronic acuator and two hydraulics(one bad,one good) from the bailer for less than ten bucks. (I don't think they knew what they were)

Not really. Most stores will not crimp fittings on used hose. Its a liability thing. The hose is the cheap part of the equation. 15' of hose is really only worth $25 or so. The fittings are what cost. I had to get some on my latest hose that were $24 locally but I got them for $11 on line. Also, all hose manufactures have different specs. So a Eaton hose may not crimp on a Parker fitting.

Chris

 

[Rocwin]

I would definitely stay away from a junk yard hose, the rubber is prone to dry rot, which could start wire braid corrosion.

When crimping hoses you need to be careful of the type of hose (100R2), brand, and the fittings that go on them. While hoses of a certain specifications (not all) should be the same they aren't always, and using a Parker crimper, on Weatherhead fittings on some import hose is a recipe for disaster. Not all hose ends/crimps are the same, some bite into the wire, some lock material in a collar and if your machine to crimp isn't the right style or have the right specs you'll blow the fitting off the hose and can do some serious damage. If you buy hydraulic products make sure you get them all from the same place unless you really understand what you are doing.

A customer of ours just a couple days ago had a hose blow off a crane, their mechanics just decided they could crimp an end on a 100R16 hose with 100R2 equipment, something like that can kill.

 

[Chilly807]

They can be expensive.. no question. I find that the price of the hose is minimal, it's the fittings and adapters that drive the price up, not to mention quick connects.

I recently bought enough adapters and hose to set up a rear remote. All told about 30 feet of hose, 14 ends (crimped style), 12 adapters (some 90* bulkhead type, some straight) and two complete quick connects plus clamps and brackets to attach them. Labour charges were $2 per crimp.. at the end of the day it beat the good out of $500. Add in a decent valve and cylinder and you're pushing $800. Still considerably cheaper than paying the dealer to do it for me, plus I learned a bit more about hydraulics by doing it myself.

Not cheap, but good quality hoses (better than what came on the tractor new), and no leaks when I was done. I could have probably gotten it done cheaper, but I have to say I was happy with the finished products.

Sean

 

[racerboy832]

I was laughing cause i'm going through this as we speak. I'm getting my list together. I'm gunna take a shot at TSC cause some places were cheap on line but crazy on fittings. I feel like an idiot only buying lines and not fittings. Atleast TSC they are open till 8 and sat.

 

[blueriver]

I will repeat what others have said about getting an estimate. Especially in a business like hydraulics, where there are so many independent local vendors and a wide range of prices, you should know exactly what you're going to be paying before your hoses are made.

In fact, I would take it one step farther and say that assembling a hose is not like a troubleshooting an engine. There should be NO unexpected costs. Your supplier knows what his material costs, and he knows what his labor costs. Assembling a hose is a straightforward process. If your supplier can't or won't tell you beforehand exactly how much he's going to charge, you should not be doing business with him.

I was curious how our prices at DiscountHydraulicHose.com would compare to the prices you paid your supplier, so I ran some numbers using our current catalog prices and assembly charges. For the sake of comparison, I spec'ed 3/8" I.D. Hydraulic Hose (SAE 100R2AT, 2-wire braid, 4,000 psi max. working pressure) with 1/2" NPTF male pipe fittings (to connect with the 1/2" AG couplers found on most tractors).

Two 18 foot hose assemblies @ $33.30 each
Two 6 foot hose assemblies @ $23.30 each
Two complete sets of 1/2" AG couplers @ $15.52 each
Two extra male couples @ $5.19 each

Altogether, four hoses plus the couplers would have cost $154.62 plus S&H.

Best of all, you would have had this quote BEFORE we made your hoses.

You're excatly right ... thats what I posted a few post back ... discount hydraulic hose is now on my desktop!!

 

[Diamondpilot]

You're excatly right ... thats what I posted a few post back ... discount hydraulic hose is now on my desktop!!

Its one of my favorites when I have the time to wait. We blew a hose in the middle of a septic tank project on a Back Hoe. It was 3/4" and 36" long. Local place was $85 but we had to have it. Next day I was at Rural King, kind of like TSC but 10 times better, and they had what we needed by using a adapter for under $20 and I am sure Discount Hydraulic Hose could have made it for about the same but just did not have the time, need it done that day.

Chris

 

[jonyyuma]

Okay, crimping hoses is serious business here too. Our shop had a real nice crimper setup. Our 80 ft boom truck needed a new hose on the upper lift arm. Well,we used the truck up to 60 feet, and started down for lunch,the entire fitting shot off the new hose.It whipped around dumping fluid and the safety catch stopped the boom. Pucker factor went sky high and then we cleaned up 50 gals of fluid. Granted it is just a tractor so when would it be a good time to blow a fitting or hose? I also avoid Chinese rep parts, it is impossible to tell how well they were tested, or strength? Jy.

 

[David Devuono]

Thank you for Princess Auto in Canada. If I had to pay $350 for for 4 hoses I would not be playing with Hydraulics. 3/8 hose is 1.79 a foot. Crimping and cleaning is free.

Prices are generally 25% higher in Canada to pay for our free Health Care.

 

[ampa]

Hi David....I paid $1.79 per ft. a few days ago @ Princess Auto for 1/4" 2 wire crimped no charge..I was told this hose was a much better grade from another supplier....hows is your track machine comin' along?.....finally got mine all workin'...just need to clamp the hoses to the side of tractor and rear fender..Oopps sorry David... I made a slight boo boo..$179.00 per ft. would make anyone cry...or just forget about usin' hydraulics altogether...thanks for pointin' it out to me..I corrected it...you can stop cryin now.....take care...Ampa <>

 

[David Devuono]

Ampa, you made me sit down and cry and I know you mean 1.79. I was at PA tonight. I need 26 hoses (56 fittings), 3 relief valves, one flow control and one flow splitter. Hoping I can get it all for $1,750.00. I have not worked on the machine for three weeks on account I bought a new truck. You know, plywood in the bed, lying on my 50 yr old back undercoating it. Brake controller etc.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

I made so much money selling hoses I went out of business.

 

[tungularafishcamp]

I wish alot more of this bartering/trading was done ,in my area no one would even think of doing this and I think its a shame. I would love to build say a piece of furniture or weld something or paint something for the guy to make some hoses for me.

It never hurts to ask, they can only say no but it might even get their wheels turning for next time. I have used seafood a lot for bartering but almost anything you have extra of someone somewhere wants. I even bartered seafood for legal services, only dealing I ever had with a lawyer that I was actually happy about.
Rick

 

[wdchyd]

I made so much money selling hoses I went out of business.

???You're kidding right.....??

 

[blueriver]

I was charged by the inch ... $0.47 or $5.64 a foot ... It was my fault for not asking. Ya know what they about assuming ....

 

[Wayne County Hose]

???You're kidding right.....??

Not kidding. Charged a reasonable price, every customer but 1 in my 2 years of business that left my shop was happy. And all the local businessmen told me I could have given the guy a hose and he would still complain. Gave free advice all the time. What happened? I got pooped on. Felt bad for some people and gave them a great break. My wife goes into town a couple weeks later and sees their truck at my competition and they're walking out with hoses and oil. I hate the public. All everyone does is complains no matter how you treat them. Just wait people, you will deserve everything you get.
I have a load of stock if anyone is interested.

 

[wdchyd]

Wow, sorry to here this.....unfortunately this is a story I've heard before....what was that saying "Nice Guys Finish Last"......I'm sure you did your best...

I had an electrician tell me once that the word on the street is you guys are doing a great job, but they'll never tell you that.....they're afraid you'll go up on your prices.....

Sometimes we just need a little positive reinforcement to keep us going....

What % of hoses were you doing compared to your repair work...