The cost of Hydraulic hose's ... WOW!!

[Discount Hydraulic Hose]

I will repeat what others have said about getting an estimate. Especially in a business like hydraulics, where there are so many independent local vendors and a wide range of prices, you should know exactly what you're going to be paying before your hoses are made.

In fact, I would take it one step farther and say that assembling a hose is not like a troubleshooting an engine. There should be NO unexpected costs. Your supplier knows what his material costs, and he knows what his labor costs. Assembling a hose is a straightforward process. If your supplier can't or won't tell you beforehand exactly how much he's going to charge, you should not be doing business with him.

I was curious how our prices at DiscountHydraulicHose.com would compare to the prices you paid your supplier, so I ran some numbers using our current catalog prices and assembly charges. For the sake of comparison, I spec'ed 3/8" I.D. Hydraulic Hose (SAE 100R2AT, 2-wire braid, 4,000 psi max. working pressure) with 1/2" NPTF male pipe fittings (to connect with the 1/2" AG couplers found on most tractors).

Two 18 foot hose assemblies @ $33.30 each
Two 6 foot hose assemblies @ $23.30 each
Two complete sets of 1/2" AG couplers @ $15.52 each
Two extra male couples @ $5.19 each

Altogether, four hoses plus the couplers would have cost $154.62 plus S&H.

Best of all, you would have had this quote BEFORE we made your hoses.

 

[looknlearn]

I'm not trying to derail the discussion, but I have a quick question. Can you reuse used hoses that have the fittings cut off? Reason being, I was at the local junkyard( which is in the city of Buffalo NY) and found a John Deere round bailer off in the corner. It had burned but there was about 15 -20 feet of good hoses that ran inside the tongue where it had not gotten hot. Are they any good?

By the way I got off a good electronic acuator and two hydraulics(one bad,one good) from the bailer for less than ten bucks. (I don't think they knew what they were)

 

[evo803]

I provide the hoses n fittings and take them to the cannery and have one of the mechanics crimp them for me. For a few crab, get all my hoses made up for me.
Rick:thumbsup:

I wish alot more of this bartering/trading was done ,in my area no one would even think of doing this and I think its a shame. I would love to build say a piece of furniture or weld something or paint something for the guy to make some hoses for me.

Sorry OT

 

[Discount Hydraulic Hose]

I'm not trying to derail the discussion, but I have a quick question. Can you reuse used hoses that have the fittings cut off? Reason being, I was at the local junkyard( which is in the city of Buffalo NY) and found a John Deere round bailer off in the corner. It had burned but there was about 15 -20 feet of good hoses that ran inside the tongue where it had not gotten hot. Are they any good?

By the way I got off a good electronic acuator and two hydraulics(one bad,one good) from the bailer for less than ten bucks. (I don't think they knew what they were)

Generally, you can reuse a section of hose, as long as you cut off the damaged section, and attach the new fittings properly. You should also try and clean out the hose if possible. There may be a lot of dirt and debris in there, and if you can't be sure your hose is clean, it's not worth saving a few dollars at the risk of damaging more expensive components.

In the case you've described, I would run fast in the other direction. I would never reuse a hose from a piece of burned out equipment in a junkyard. The hose may appear OK to you, but is it really?

You can buy 1/2" ID SAE 100R2AT Hydraulic Hose for less than $1.50 per foot. Is saving $15 to $20 really worth the risk of used hose from a questionable source.? At best, a hose failure and leak of a few quarts of hydraulic fluid would probably cost you more than you saved. At worst, you wind up contaminating your system and having to replace something a LOT more expensive than a few feet of hydraulic hose.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I'm not trying to derail the discussion, but I have a quick question. Can you reuse used hoses that have the fittings cut off? Reason being, I was at the local junkyard( which is in the city of Buffalo NY) and found a John Deere round bailer off in the corner. It had burned but there was about 15 -20 feet of good hoses that ran inside the tongue where it had not gotten hot. Are they any good?

By the way I got off a good electronic acuator and two hydraulics(one bad,one good) from the bailer for less than ten bucks. (I don't think they knew what they were)

Not really. Most stores will not crimp fittings on used hose. Its a liability thing. The hose is the cheap part of the equation. 15' of hose is really only worth $25 or so. The fittings are what cost. I had to get some on my latest hose that were $24 locally but I got them for $11 on line. Also, all hose manufactures have different specs. So a Eaton hose may not crimp on a Parker fitting.

Chris

 

[Rocwin]

I would definitely stay away from a junk yard hose, the rubber is prone to dry rot, which could start wire braid corrosion.

When crimping hoses you need to be careful of the type of hose (100R2), brand, and the fittings that go on them. While hoses of a certain specifications (not all) should be the same they aren't always, and using a Parker crimper, on Weatherhead fittings on some import hose is a recipe for disaster. Not all hose ends/crimps are the same, some bite into the wire, some lock material in a collar and if your machine to crimp isn't the right style or have the right specs you'll blow the fitting off the hose and can do some serious damage. If you buy hydraulic products make sure you get them all from the same place unless you really understand what you are doing.

A customer of ours just a couple days ago had a hose blow off a crane, their mechanics just decided they could crimp an end on a 100R16 hose with 100R2 equipment, something like that can kill.

 

[Chilly807]

They can be expensive.. no question. I find that the price of the hose is minimal, it's the fittings and adapters that drive the price up, not to mention quick connects.

I recently bought enough adapters and hose to set up a rear remote. All told about 30 feet of hose, 14 ends (crimped style), 12 adapters (some 90* bulkhead type, some straight) and two complete quick connects plus clamps and brackets to attach them. Labour charges were $2 per crimp.. at the end of the day it beat the good out of $500. Add in a decent valve and cylinder and you're pushing $800. Still considerably cheaper than paying the dealer to do it for me, plus I learned a bit more about hydraulics by doing it myself.

Not cheap, but good quality hoses (better than what came on the tractor new), and no leaks when I was done. I could have probably gotten it done cheaper, but I have to say I was happy with the finished products.

Sean

 

[racerboy832]

I was laughing cause i'm going through this as we speak. I'm getting my list together. I'm gunna take a shot at TSC cause some places were cheap on line but crazy on fittings. I feel like an idiot only buying lines and not fittings. Atleast TSC they are open till 8 and sat.

 

[blueriver]

I will repeat what others have said about getting an estimate. Especially in a business like hydraulics, where there are so many independent local vendors and a wide range of prices, you should know exactly what you're going to be paying before your hoses are made.

In fact, I would take it one step farther and say that assembling a hose is not like a troubleshooting an engine. There should be NO unexpected costs. Your supplier knows what his material costs, and he knows what his labor costs. Assembling a hose is a straightforward process. If your supplier can't or won't tell you beforehand exactly how much he's going to charge, you should not be doing business with him.

I was curious how our prices at DiscountHydraulicHose.com would compare to the prices you paid your supplier, so I ran some numbers using our current catalog prices and assembly charges. For the sake of comparison, I spec'ed 3/8" I.D. Hydraulic Hose (SAE 100R2AT, 2-wire braid, 4,000 psi max. working pressure) with 1/2" NPTF male pipe fittings (to connect with the 1/2" AG couplers found on most tractors).

Two 18 foot hose assemblies @ $33.30 each
Two 6 foot hose assemblies @ $23.30 each
Two complete sets of 1/2" AG couplers @ $15.52 each
Two extra male couples @ $5.19 each

Altogether, four hoses plus the couplers would have cost $154.62 plus S&H.

Best of all, you would have had this quote BEFORE we made your hoses.

You're excatly right ... thats what I posted a few post back ... discount hydraulic hose is now on my desktop!!

 

[Diamondpilot]

You're excatly right ... thats what I posted a few post back ... discount hydraulic hose is now on my desktop!!

Its one of my favorites when I have the time to wait. We blew a hose in the middle of a septic tank project on a Back Hoe. It was 3/4" and 36" long. Local place was $85 but we had to have it. Next day I was at Rural King, kind of like TSC but 10 times better, and they had what we needed by using a adapter for under $20 and I am sure Discount Hydraulic Hose could have made it for about the same but just did not have the time, need it done that day.

Chris