Videos of New PT425 Arriving/Unloading

[Marks481]

Clumber, I did notice that your aux PTO connections seem to be almost on top of the rollover bar, wheras on my PT422, the connections end about 2-3" behind the rollover bar. The guide tubes on your aux pto tubing is much longer on your PT425.

That might just be a common difference between the 422 and 425, but I do think that your connections would be much more difficult to make up just from looking at the geometry.

Somone else have a good picture of their aux PTO connections on a PT425?

 

[Clumber]

The Parker 8200/9200 Series QD can be connected, with both sides under pressure.

Some of the others will connect up to 500 psi .

Parker - 9200 SERIES COUPLINGS

Thanks JJ. I saw those a few days ago. However, I can't find a place to buy them online. I'm still searching. Also, its very frustrating that the manufacturers are only making 1/2" nominal sizes in the CURP lever and Flat faced QDs. Its the 1/4" connectors that are the most troublesome for me. Could I upsize with adapters???

 

[Clumber]

Clumber, I did notice that your aux PTO connections seem to be almost on top of the rollover bar, wheras on my PT422, the connections end about 2-3" behind the rollover bar. The guide tubes on your aux pto tubing is much longer on your PT425.

That might just be a common difference between the 422 and 425, but I do think that your connections would be much more difficult to make up just from looking at the geometry.

Somone else have a good picture of their aux PTO connections on a PT425?

This weekend I will have some time to take some photos and try to loosen the clamps to try to pull hoses out more. I will try some things and report back by Monday.

 

[Clumber]

I get it now. The ones that connect under pressure just push on and there is no locking ring to retract.

Even if they require more force to connect, the fact that they do not require the ring to be pulled back may be a plus.

Still, with the added cost, I would look at possibly moving the AUX PTO connections a bit forward in their sleeves on the FEL arms to give your fingers a bit of room, if possible (as someone else suggested) and always turn the tractor off and flip the AUX PTO lever a few times first, to see if that helps.

I do know that once in a while they can be stubborn and can only imagine it would be more difficult with reduced strength or arthritis in my hands. I just cringe at the thought of replacing all of those fittings.

Maybe just purchase one set and do one side of an implement to see if it makes a difference for you so you are not out a bunch of $$ if they don't.

I am interested in the tool that you mention.

Moss, here is a link Tim sent me. A nice tool for stubborn QDs. I am thinking of one make with a Kwick woodworking clamp....

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/138730-home-made-tool.html

 

[MossRoad]

Bad code in the link.

 

[Clumber]

This link should work: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/138730-home-made-tool.html

 

[MossRoad]

Thanks, That worked! :thumbsup:

Don't you have to hold the locking ring back when you connect the fittings? I always do. I retract the ring with one hand and slip the connector on with the other, then release the ring.

How are you going to be able to hold the ring back and operate that clamp at the same time?

 

[Clumber]

Thanks, That worked! :thumbsup:

Don't you have to hold the locking ring back when you connect the fittings? I always do. I retract the ring with one hand and slip the connector on with the other, then release the ring.

How are you going to be able to hold the ring back and operate that clamp at the same time?

I had thought that might be a problem. I plan to try a number of ideas from the forum this weekend. Hopefully it will not get to the point where I have to build a tool. Yes, pulling the ring back is hard enough (lack of leverage) while jamming the male plug at the same time. Trying to chew gum at the same time would be impossible. :laughing:

 

[MossRoad]

I had thought that might be a problem. I plan to try a number of ideas from the forum this weekend. Hopefully it will not get to the point where I have to build a tool. Yes, pulling the ring back is hard enough (lack of leverage) while jamming the male plug at the same time. Trying to chew gum at the same time would be impossible. :laughing:

You could try re-arranging the connectors so the tractor has the two males on the quick attach hoses and the attachment has two females. That way you are using both hands on the same connector. Might give you just the added needed force with both hands on the same connector.

 

[MossRoad]

Here's a link to a video of me disconnecting the quick attach hoses and connecting the power angle snow plow. My plow has female connectors on both hoses. I can mix it up if I am not careful, but it is really easy to connect and disconnect.

The Main PTO for the mowers, on the other hand, have opposite male and female connectors, so you can't get the mower rotation incorrect.

http://mossroad.com/PT425Videos/PT425_PowerAngleHookup.WMV

 

[MossRoad]

Ha! I just noticed that I found those same black gloves in my basement last week, and that I can no longer fit in the coveralls I was wearing in that video 9 years ago! :laughing:

 

[toy]

This weekend I will have some time to take some photos and try to loosen the clamps to try to pull hoses out more. I will try some things and report back by Monday.

I was wondering if you had tried to loosen the bolts and try to pull a little extra hose out to help you. I did mine when I first got it and it helped, Mine didn't stick out hardly enough for them to hook up with nimble fingers and hands let alone stiff aching hands, so that is why I suggested it in an earlier post.

 

[Clumber]

I was wondering if you had tried to loosen the bolts and try to pull a little extra hose out to help you. I did mine when I first got it and it helped, Mine didn't stick out hardly enough for them to hook up with nimble fingers and hands let alone stiff aching hands, so that is why I suggested it in an earlier post.

Folks, I have been away from the forum for a while -- too busy with real work trying to help solve impossible problems. The hard issues I can deal with in reasonable time. The impossible ones take longer.

Yes, I did try loosening the hose clamp bolts. It worked great. On the right side, standing in front of the FEL, the 1/4" hose has about 2.5 " of play after loosening the bolt and cutting the cable tie further down the hose. I extended the hose about 1.5 " and tighten the bolt on the metal hose crimp. Moving it further would mean that the bolt would have to tighten on the hose -- probably not a good idea. I could only extend the left 1/4" hose about .5" but that helped.

Disconnecting the couplers have become much easier -- no more problems there. Connecting is still not trivial but I think more doable. I found that when I straddle the FEL at the Quick Connect plate I have more leverage to shove on the connector and seat it. That position is somewhat unavailing but I am usually alone when doing that. Thanks Toy for the suggestion.

 

[toy]

If you are tightening down on the hose with the bolt, you might be able to get something to put between the hose and the bolt to disperse the pressure of the bolt over a wider area. Example cutting a small section of conduit and cut one side of it off and sliding it under the bolt, and tightening it down if you think that might be a problem.

 

[toy]

Oh yea Clumber you are welcome.

 

[MossRoad]

Folks, I have been away from the forum for a while -- too busy with real work trying to help solve impossible problems. The hard issues I can deal with in reasonable time. The impossible ones take longer.

Yes, I did try loosening the hose clamp bolts. It worked great. On the right side, standing in front of the FEL, the 1/4" hose has about 2.5 " of play after loosening the bolt and cutting the cable tie further down the hose. I extended the hose about 1.5 " and tighten the bolt on the metal hose crimp. Moving it further would mean that the bolt would have to tighten on the hose -- probably not a good idea. I could only extend the left 1/4" hose about .5" but that helped.

Disconnecting the couplers have become much easier -- no more problems there. Connecting is still not trivial but I think more doable. I found that when I straddle the FEL at the Quick Connect plate I have more leverage to shove on the connector and seat it. That position is somewhat unavailing but I am usually alone when doing that. Thanks Toy for the suggestion.

That's good to hear. Just be sure to set the parking brake and move the unit back and forth until you feel the pins lock the front tires, then turn the engine OFF before you attempt to straddle or put your body over any part of the FEL arms. If, for some reason, you slip, or a branch falls from a tree, or a turkey lands on the joystick, you can be crushed to death. Pretty quickly, too.

On several occasions I have been bulldozing the PT425 through thick brush only to have a branch push against the joystick, raising the FEL without my assistance. On one occasion, I was dumping a load of brush and I raised it too high. The brush came back over the top of the bucket and pushed the FEL even higher, dumping more brush on me. It could have gotten really ugly really fast had I been moving logs instead of light brush.

So, it is easy to push that joystick back unintentionally if, say, you were standing over the FEL, lost your footing, and while grabbing for a hand hold hit the joystick instead of the ROPS. UP YOU GO! and pinched between a rock and a hard place, if you know what I mean. :thumbsup:

 

[Clumber]

Thanks guys for the suggestions. I have been doing that "technique" with the tractor turned off (and Parking brake set). However, can moving the joystick with the tractor off cause the FEL to move?????

 

[J_J]

Yes, it will decend/lower fast. You are providing a path for the fluid to escape out of the cyl. The valve in neutral is supposed to block alll flow from the cyl, but sometimes they leak down.

 

[Clumber]

Thanks, that is good to know! So with the Tractor off, parking brake set, an attachment locked on the QA plate, and the attachment lowered to the ground preventing the FEL from lowering further, I should be safe to straddle the FEL when I have to. Maybe better phrasing would be safer but avoid moving the joystick in any case.

 

[MossRoad]

Thanks guys for the suggestions. I have been doing that "technique" with the tractor turned off (and Parking brake set). However, can moving the joystick with the tractor off cause the FEL to move?????

Yes, it can drop with the tractor off. For that matter, it will leak down very slowly with the tractor on or off also. So keep that in mind. Never, ever get under an implement on the FEL arms with the tractor on OR off.