Brake overhaul

[Gary Sweat]

My Hub was on ther pretty tight. The Bad seal looked to be Orig. My El Cheapo HF 1/4" Dr. wouldn't budge the Hub. I was able to rent a 3/4" Dr. gear puller from Orielly's auto parts and used my 1/2" Impact with a reducer. Popped right of. Worse case you may have to heat it up. If you had to pull the Axel shouldn't be much to it.

Carey

This one seems to be stuck on the splines. Probably from rust. I'm going to try to rig something up with the 12 ton press and see if it will break it loose. If not, the torch is next More parts to order:laughing:

 

[normde2001]

Seems like you are going to a lot of trouble to replace a bearing that is probably not bad. Never read of anyone actually doing this job before.

 

[Gary Sweat]

Seems like you are going to a lot of trouble to replace a bearing that is probably not bad. Never read of anyone actually doing this job before.

The bearing wasn't bad. It's just a standard practice I do when I tear something down that is this old. Replace the parts that could be worn. This bearing is sealed and the inner bearing is open to the oil. I did notice a small amount of what looked like milky oil seep out of the bearing so some oil from the tranny must work it's way inside past the seals.

 

[normde2001]

To each his own. Guys replace that seal all the time just by pulling the brake drum; however, I would have just drained it, cleaned up and fixed the brakes, good for another 30 years.

 

[clemsonfor]

i THINK MOST OF US KNEW THE 3 PT WAS ONE UNIT. (SORRY FOR CAPS, JUST NOTICED) I was about to say something but thought that is what you meant, i thought you may have been talking about the top but i just did not say anything, sorry.

And my service manual even says that, maybe mine is better than yours? Prolly not.

 

[Gary Sweat]

i THINK MOST OF US KNEW THE 3 PT WAS ONE UNIT. (SORRY FOR CAPS, JUST NOTICED) I was about to say something but thought that is what you meant, i thought you may have been talking about the top but i just did not say anything, sorry.

And my service manual even says that, maybe mine is better than yours? Prolly not.

I was referring to the PTO assembly coming out as a unit. Nothing to have to take apart to get it out.

 

[Gary Sweat]

To each his own. Guys replace that seal all the time just by pulling the brake drum; however, I would have just drained it, cleaned up and fixed the brakes, good for another 30 years.

There are 3 seals in the brake housing assembly. The one you are talking about and the two other O-rings. Now that I know how it comes apart and goes back together it's no big deal. It was just a little confusing when the service manual didn't really cover the entire job. I'm just not a fan of waiting till something breaks before I fix it. If I can do a little preventive maintenance then I will and the parts are cheap. I'm also replacing the axle seals and bearings while it's apart. They probably don't need it either but no harm in replacing them.

 

[careyo63]

Make sure you check the Seal Collar. Since you have the Axel out I would replace them. When I had to replace one of my Axel Seals the Collar wasn't in bad shape but did have a few pits in it. It still does not leak but will show a Small oil drip on the tire when it sits. I wasn't in any physical shape to be doing repairs on it at the time and it was only one Axel so if it did leak I would of done the same as you and pulled it all down.

By the way since the 1900 is the about same as the 2000 I'm surprised nobody told you of the (Wet brake Setup) I believe Winston 1 awhile back on Hoye Tech Support stated he has them. and few of Fredricks 2000's has them also...

Carey

 

[Gary Sweat]

Make sure you check the Seal Collar. Since you have the Axel out I would replace them. When I had to replace one of my Axel Seals the Collar wasn't in bad shape but did have a few pits in it. It still does not leak but will show a Small oil drip on the tire when it sits. I wasn't in any physical shape to be doing repairs on it at the time and it was only one Axel so if it did leak I would of done the same as you and pulled it all down.

By the way since the 1900 is the about same as the 2000 I'm surprised nobody told you of the (Wet brake Setup) I believe Winston 1 awhile back on Hoye Tech Support stated he has them. and few of Fredricks 2000's has them also...

Carey

Thanks for the tip on the axle seal collar. If it's as pitted as the one on the brake it will need replacing. I'm in the process of putting the right brake assembly back together but will not get the axle, PTO cover and 3pt gaskets till Friday. Hopefully that will give me enough time to do the left side.

The 1900 has dry brakes. I've found this model is a cross between different models. Some parts from the 1600 fit and some from the 2000 fit. Engine wise, several models seem the same. I'm starting to think it was what I call a "fill in" model. Built from whatever they had on hand till the next model came out. The parts manual is for the 1600 and 1900 with very few differences.

 

[clemsonfor]

I was referring to the PTO assembly coming out as a unit. Nothing to have to take apart to get it out.

Yep thats what i was referring to. Im sorry i have trouble putting into words what my thoughts are.