Brake overhaul

[Gary Sweat]

Make sure you check the Seal Collar. Since you have the Axel out I would replace them. When I had to replace one of my Axel Seals the Collar wasn't in bad shape but did have a few pits in it. It still does not leak but will show a Small oil drip on the tire when it sits. I wasn't in any physical shape to be doing repairs on it at the time and it was only one Axel so if it did leak I would of done the same as you and pulled it all down.

By the way since the 1900 is the about same as the 2000 I'm surprised nobody told you of the (Wet brake Setup) I believe Winston 1 awhile back on Hoye Tech Support stated he has them. and few of Fredricks 2000's has them also...

Carey

Finally got the axle hub off the shaft. Had to use a wheel puller, lots of penetrating fluid and a hammer. Took about a half hour of tightening and tapping on the hub to break it loose. Yep, the seal collar was corroded as bad as the brake collar. Would have been a waist of a seal to just put in a new one without changing the collar. It would have just chewed it up over time. Now I have to get the collar unstuck from the axle.

Is there any products out that you can coat everything exposed to keep them from rusting up again? Maybe something like what the coating you see on equipment shipped from overseas? It's a pain to get off but it stops them from corroding.

 

[careyo63]

Yeap mine was as bad if not worse. So far so good on mine. A drip or two every now and then . The Collar looked like it would definatly be a Royal PITA. to get off on the tractor. I'll be watching to hear what all you had to go through to get it off and replace them.

Carey

 

[Gary Sweat]

Had to use the press to get the collar and bearing out. I tried to use pliers and tap the collar but it wouldn't budge. I cut a 13" piece of 2 1/4" pipe to fit down into the axle housing to press out the bearing and seal collar. Pretty easy if you have a press but would be a real pain if it was still on the tractor. Would probably have to use a torch to heat the seal collar to break the rust bond.

The new bearing is sealed (like the brake outer bearing) but the old was open. Also, the new seal collar is coated. Guess they figured out eventually the collars will corrode and destroy the seal.

Also, the axles on this tractor are really thick. I doubt a 20hp engine will ever be able to snap one.

 

[clemsonfor]

Is there any products out that you can coat everything exposed to keep them from rusting up again? Maybe something like what the coating you see on equipment shipped from overseas? It's a pain to get off but it stops them from corroding.

maybe that Fluid Film stuff that there talking about in the Oil,fuel,lube forum. The topic is about a year old, i think snow plow guys use it on the plows to keep ice buildup down and others spray it on the bottom of thier trucks to keep the rust down. all i know is from what i have picked up from reading about it, i dont really know anything about it. I assume i may be some type of light oil?

 

[bowinelk]

Gee Gary, Where do you guys get your parts so quick from? I'm always waiting 7 to 10 days. It makes all my repairs drag out.

 

[Gary Sweat]

Gee Gary, Where do you guys get your parts so quick from? I'm always waiting 7 to 10 days. It makes all my repairs drag out.

I get mine from Hoye since they are in Texas and closest to me. Just takes a couple of days to get. They do a good job of filling the order quickly and are very helpful on the phone. Unfortunately not all of the parts listed on the web site are the correct part so sometimes you will get parts that won't work or have to be modified. Overall though, they are a good source for parts.

 

[bowinelk]

Well thats where I go through. Guess I am just farther away. I found that out about making the parts fit:laughing: but so far they are good to deal with and prices are not too bad.

 

[Gary Sweat]

Well thats where I go through. Guess I am just farther away. I found that out about making the parts fit:laughing: but so far they are good to deal with and prices are not too bad.

yea, your problem is how long it takes UPS to deliver. I once ordered some car engine parts from Dallas (3.5 hour drive) and it took 10 days to get them. Watched the tracking and they went to Omaha, then to two cities in Kansas, then to Missouri before it got to me. Sometimes I wonder how they make money on shipping that way

 

[Gary Sweat]

Here is possibly a good reason to do a periodic tear down of some parts on a tractor to see how they look. Granted, not everything needs inspected by taking it apart but for some things it can save having to do a lot more work and money.

Something got into the outer seal on the left axle and started shredding it. Given enough time it would likely have worked its way into the inner seal and then the bearing. All that stringy stuff is pieces of the seal. I won't know till I tear it apart if there is more damage. I did notice a small amount of wet dust starting to show up around the hub but thought it was just normal minor leakage from age.

 

[clemsonfor]

usually takes 4 days or less to get my parts