Buying Advice What can a BX25 Do? Bushog? Mow? Dig?

   / What can a BX25 Do? Bushog? Mow? Dig? #11  
Buying the smallest Caroni flailmower with the B rotor
will allow you to mow sod and maintain brush land and
will serve you for years.


The flailmower mows acrs the entire width of the cut where a
rotary cutter only mows half the mowing width with one blade
at a time.

A flail mower also operates a a higher R.P.M. than a rotary cutter
and will leave very fine cuttings that will degrade to much quickly.


A Caroni flail mower with the B rotor and the cup knives will do everything for you and mow nice sod and will outlast your tractor also.

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There you go!!!!
I wondered when another opportunity to push the flail mower would appear with all this snow plows, blades, throwers and doing engine tuning which none of us have ever done to our BX's and are completely satisfied with them.:D:D
Hang in there.:)
Is it true you have a Wheel Horse and not a Kubota?
I had a Wheel Horse riding mower (30)years ago. Sold it to a friend and I think he still has it.
 
   / What can a BX25 Do? Bushog? Mow? Dig? #12  
Buying the smallest Caroni flailmower with the B rotor
will allow you to mow sod and maintain brush land and
will serve you for years.


The flailmower mows acrs the entire width of the cut where a
rotary cutter only mows half the mowing width with one blade
at a time.

A flail mower also operates a a higher R.P.M. than a rotary cutter
and will leave very fine cuttings that will degrade to much quickly.


A Caroni flail mower with the B rotor and the cup knives will do everything for you and mow nice sod and will outlast your tractor also.

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Leon, I may have missed something, but it looks like the smallest Caron flail needs more power than the BX25 pumps out; like I said, I may have gotten confused as that happens from time to time.
 
   / What can a BX25 Do? Bushog? Mow? Dig?
  • Thread Starter
#13  
I know where the dealer was coming from on the plow thing. he was pushing the kubota QA system that attaches directly to the frame.

I understand its a light machine, but could the arms be tweaked that easily?


On the caroni, assuming the BX has enough HP, can it handle ~2" alders? What about clusters? Bx is 17.5 pto and the 48 flail requires 20 minimum. This might work for lawns, but i wonder how being this low on hp will work out in woody growth?
 
   / What can a BX25 Do? Bushog? Mow? Dig? #14  
I respectfully disagree with the advice about getting a flail mower. They are very expensive in comparison to rotary mowers or cutters (3 to 4 times the cost), and there are three categories: light duty have knives to cut grass, heavy duty have hammers to break, not cut, heavy/stemmy material, and medium duty is in between. Size is not related to light, medium, or heavy duty; you can have a narrow heavy duty and also a wide light duty model. Flails are designed to work in areas where there are bystanders. Rotary mowers and cutters can launch rocks and hurt people. Flails will not launch projectiles. Flails also have numerous knives or hammers to maintain. A light duty flail will indeed give a fine cut on lawn, but will not cut heavy material. A heavy duty flail cuts stemmy material well, but does not have the fine cut on lawn that a light duty gives. Rotary mowers just have three blades to sharpen and brush hogs require little to no sharpening at all on the two free pivoting blades they typically have. If you want to mow lawn and also cut 2" sapplings, you really need two implements, regardless of whether you go with two rotaries, two flails, or one of each. I know of one single implement, the Woods RM990, that will cut both; it is a hybrid between a rotary mower and a rotary cutter, and requires around 80 PTO hp, so that is out of the question for a BX and also for use on a bigger tractor on your soft sod.

As to the 48" brush hog mentioned, I know of no heavy duty brush hog in that width. The 40" Gearmore is heavy duty and is the exact width of the BX body (42" body, 40" cutting swath). I find that ideal when cutting brush between trees; if the tractor fits, the RC is going to match the tractor chassis going through the same opening. The wider the blade on a given RC, the more the torque is dissipated. The HD blades, being massive, build a lot of inertia to break stemmy material. The medium and light duty rough cutters have less mass in the blades, thus less inertia, and depend on sharpness and relatively unimpeded torque to cut material. On a heavy duty model, the weight and inertia in the blades break the material that they hit.

Some have suggested getting a B rather than a BX, and while it's correct that the very lightest B is not too much heavier, I do not see it having the versatility of a BX. It is true the B has higher clearance, but the converse of that is that the BX has a lower center of gravity.

For mowing several acres of lawn, you might consider a really wide RFM rather than the OEM MMM. Again, going with a heavier tractor would not be good on that soft sod, and while the BX might take more time than a big tractor, it is going to be much faster than the garden tractor.

In my own opinion, the BX25 is the correct tractor for the situation you describe.
 
   / What can a BX25 Do? Bushog? Mow? Dig? #15  
I know where the dealer was coming from on the plow thing. he was pushing the kubota QA system that attaches directly to the frame.

I understand its a light machine, but could the arms be tweaked that easily?

Tractors aren't bulldozers and any tractor FEL can be "tweaked" if you run into a solid barrier at an angle. Even on the largest of agricultural tractors. Considering the way you "plow" snow often requires you to build up a little speed to roll snow off an angled blade, it's profoundly easy to snag it on something. Can't tell you how many shear pins I broke that way plowing snow with a 4x4 long ago...
 
   / What can a BX25 Do? Bushog? Mow? Dig? #16  
The BX25 sounds like it would be a good fit for you...Go for it!!! :thumbsup:
 
   / What can a BX25 Do? Bushog? Mow? Dig? #17  
I understand its a light machine, but could the arms be tweaked that easily?
[QUOTE/]
in a word- no .

On the caroni, assuming the BX has enough HP, can it handle ~2" alders? What about clusters? Bx is 17.5 pto and the 48 flail requires 20 minimum. This might work for lawns, but i wonder how being this low on hp will work out in woody growth?

That is a good question- but with all respect- you stated you only have 750 ft worth to clear for a path. A couple solid weekend cutting them down with a saw and digging out the stumps with BX is doable.
 
   / What can a BX25 Do? Bushog? Mow? Dig?
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#18  
I understand its a light machine, but could the arms be tweaked that easily?
[QUOTE/]
in a word- no .



That is a good question- but with all respect- you stated you only have 750 ft worth to clear for a path. A couple solid weekend cutting them down with a saw and digging out the stumps with BX is doable.


Actually the 750 has already been cleared.Its the driveway into a 100ac property. That will just require ongoing maintenance. Typically <1" growth.

The larger diameter stuff would be encountered in trailmaking. I also would like to clear a road to a hilltop at the country property to build a cabin or park a trailer as a guess id say another 750' . I would also need to build a pad for parking the trailer on or building the camp.

I anticipate having to remove many larger stumps in building the pad and road. Say 12-20". The easy answer is to contract the roadbuilding out... but wheres the fun in that :D. Plus as we all know roadbuilding = $$$$$
 
   / What can a BX25 Do? Bushog? Mow? Dig? #20  
I can't expound much on the excellent advice you've been given so far, but I will share my personal experiences with my BX2660. The two models are so close, I doubt you'd expect much difference in performance.

After that background, heres what i need to do.

1. Maintain a 500' gravel drive and about the same in pavement. This includes snowplowing and sanding. Dealer says i need to remove the loader to plow as the loader arms cant take the strain??? If thats the case.. eek/.

Also i will have to use a back blade to reshape and slope the gravel. Does a BX have enough traction to loosen up and grade a compacted gravel drive? this will be annual maintenance from water runnoff.

I use a box blade w/ scarifiers to maintain our long, hilly gravel drive. The BX does a great job, and the learning curve isn't bad at all. I'm not sure what your history is with tractors. There are very good videos on the use of tractor implements online that were helpful for me as a tractor neophyte.

2. Mowing . approx 3 acres of treed lawn . 1 plot of 1 acre, 2 at another location. Some with soft areas and less than ideal drainage.

Can't give you much help, here. I don't use our BX for mowing.

3. installing french drains and uprooting an established lawn. this area will be graded to direct runnoff away from the house. Also a few hundred feet of reditching existing and digging new open drains

No backhoe, either. :eek:

4. Annual bushhogging of ~750' road consisting of mostly <1" hardwoods, however id also like to break trail and this would mean mowing over larger material ~2- 2.5", some in "clusters" of 5-10 alders of varying sizes sharing a common root.

The dealer said the Bx couldnt handle over 1-1.5". Is this correct? How has the BX handled "larger" materials in real world situations? Especially "clusters"?

Our BX and LandPride 48" rotary cutter has no problems with this. I have reclaimed several acres of overgrown bottom land with clusters of 1.5 - 2.5 inch poplar and pine tress, as well as blackberry shrubs twice the height of the tractor's seat. Now, the rotary cutter is not rated to cut >2 inches, but it does it. It will bog down slightly in the thickest stuff. But now that it has been cleared, it will never be let to grow to such an extent. I would not plan on doing that much punishment year after year. Also, expect to have some punji sticks left over after the cutting.
 

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