Getting Kubota TLB L46. Need some help

addisu · Oct 23, 2009

Is there any attachment or bucket size I should get like a Must HAVE? How about the tire should i get it foam filled? Please Help

LarryD · Oct 25, 2009

What do you want to do with the bucket? If you're just going to dig trenches for pipe, 12" should be fine. If you're digging foundations for custom homes, bigger is better.

Do you think flats are going to be an issue? I believe foam is expensive compared to other tire fill proceedures. Are you just looking for weight?

You'll find people here far more willing to spend your money if you give us an idea of your intended uses.

Trigger · Oct 25, 2009

I have a Kubota B21. I use a 16" bucket, honestly I have never wished for a smaller one, even for trenching, but thats just me. I always felt that a smaller one is harder to "clear" at least in my soil (mostly clay). I have my rear tires loaded even with backhoe on (methanol). As mentioned above if tire punctures are your worry, foam is the solution, however just for weight other things (rim guard, methanol, calcium etc) are fine. My experience has been good with the methanol, I do notice and appreciate the added weight.

I am not familiar with the size of an L46 i assume its grey market or you mean L48? If its an L48 I would get a 16 or 18" bucket maybe 24 if you need to move alot of dirt.

bravo5 · Mar 1, 2011

Addisu,

How do you like the L45. I was at the dealer yesterday and Im torn between the 45 and 59.

My concern is the 45 wont pull out stumps, even though that will not be is primary purpose.

I have a woodstove and im going to be doing some tree cutting, log moving, stump pulling and plowing.

Whats your recommendation??

Thanks

gwdixon · Mar 1, 2011

bravo5 said:
Addisu,

How do you like the L45. I was at the dealer yesterday and Im torn between the 45 and 59.

My concern is the 45 wont pull out stumps, even though that will not be is primary purpose.

I have a woodstove and im going to be doing some tree cutting, log moving, stump pulling and plowing.

Whats your recommendation??

Thanks

M59 all the way - with a thumb if you can manage the extra cost.

I have an L48 and it is on the edge of usefulness for the jobs you are doing.

jdonovan · Mar 1, 2011

bravo5 said:
Addisu,

How do you like the L45. I was at the dealer yesterday and Im torn between the 45 and 59.

My concern is the 45 wont pull out stumps, even though that will not be is primary purpose.

I have a woodstove and im going to be doing some tree cutting, log moving, stump pulling and plowing.

Whats your recommendation??

M59, no question.

If you even think the l45 is a bit light for the task, it probably is.

Tailrotor · Mar 1, 2011

jdonovan, Hi

I have a L45 and love it!! It is just the right size for most of the jobs I do. And it is still very easy to transport around. If you are not in the need of a full size back hoe. I think the L45 would suit you well.

The M59 is just about the size of a full size tractor you just have to look at your needs . But let me say this the L45 will dig stumps with no problems. You are not going to rip them up 1,2,3 but you won't do that with a full size hoe either. Time and practice. Here are a few pic's of mine in action!!

Stonehaller · Mar 1, 2011

I have an L39 (predecessor to the L45) with 12 and 24 inch buckets. I have dug numerous stumps and I think the L39 handled it just fine. Obviously an L59 would be faster, but the L39 got the job done. The narrow, 12" bucket helps with breaking roots. I also have a mechanical thumb which is very handy.

One of the issues I had with the L48 or L59 was the physical size. I have trouble enough maneuvering the L39 through the narrow trails in my woods. It is also much easier to transport with a 3/4 ton pickup.

I have the rears loaded with Rim Guard which helps when using the tractor with 3 point attachments.

bravo5 · Mar 2, 2011

ok. Thanks for the updates guy!! Anymore info would be great!! on opinions of one over the other

jdonovan · Mar 2, 2011

Tailrotor said:
jdonovan, Hi
The M59 is just about the size of a full size tractor you just have to look at your needs . But let me say this the L45 will dig stumps with no problems. You are not going to rip them up 1,2,3 but you won't do that with a full size hoe either. Time and practice. Here are a few pic's of mine in action!!

I've got fairly big needs and thats why I'm adding the 59 to my stable. The fly in my ointment was the inability to secure equipment at the new property, so I have to be able to haul it home at the end of the weekend with a non-cdl truck/trailer. That meant the M59 was about as big as I could go.

I really would have preferred a 10-15T class excavator, and a skip-loader or tracked skid steer, but with only one operator the multi-machine plan was less interesting. Also the need to haul them really put the multi-machine plan down.

MarkV · Mar 2, 2011

jdonovan said:
I've got fairly big needs and thats why I'm adding the 59 to my stable. The fly in my ointment was the inability to secure equipment at the new property, so I have to be able to haul it home at the end of the weekend with a non-cdl truck/trailer. That meant the M59 was about as big as I could go.

I really would have preferred a 10-15T class excavator, and a skip-loader or tracked skid steer, but with only one operator the multi-machine plan was less interesting. Also the need to haul them really put the multi-machine plan down.

You may want to recalculate your towing specs. The M59 is 8345 lbs. dry. That only leaves you 1650 lbs. for fuel, chains, any accessories added to the tractor and the weight of the trailer. I think you will end up over 10K lbs. and need to check you local CDL requirements.

MarkV

jdonovan · Mar 2, 2011

MarkV said:
You may want to recalculate your towing specs. The M59 is 8345 lbs. dry. That only leaves you 1650 lbs. for fuel, chains, any accessories added to the tractor and the weight of the trailer. I think you will end up over 10K lbs. and need to check you local CDL requirements.

My area utilizes the same criteria as federal regulations, which is > 26,000 combined which I will be under.

Chuck K. · Mar 2, 2011

I am still very happy with the M59, granted it's pretty pricey and you can find used "Big Iron" for about the same money. A primary concern when I was looking to upgrade from 5240, I needed to keep the weight in check with my tow vehicle and needed the versatility of being able to install a 3 point hitch. I'm not saying its the perfect machine but for once in a long time I am no longer shopping for a replacement.

Tailrotor · Mar 2, 2011

jdonovan said:
My area utilizes the same criteria as federal regulations, which is > 26,000 combined which I will be under.

You might want to look at your regulation again. If you tractor and trailer are over 10,000lbs you will have to get the proper endorsements. You may weigh in under 26,000lbs truck and trailer, but your trailer is going to be over 10,000lbs with tractor and equipment. And that is what they will nail you on. Good luck

Commonwealth of Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles

Duffster · Mar 2, 2011

Tailrotor said:
You might want to look at your regulation again. If you tractor and trailer are over 10,000lbs you will have to get the proper endorsements. You may weigh in under 26,000lbs truck and trailer, but your trailer is going to be over 10,000lbs with tractor and equipment. And that is what they will nail you on. Good luck

Commonwealth of Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles

The only state that requires a CDL for a trailer over 10k GVWR alone is CA.

This is from your link.

Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more if the vehicle(s) being towed has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than 10,000 pounds

Key word here is "IF".

Combination needs to be over 26k GVWR as well as the trailer being over 10k GVWR. If you don't meet either threshold you don't need CDL. (for weight)

Tailrotor · Mar 2, 2011

Duffster said:
The only state that requires a CDL for a trailer over 10k GVWR alone is CA.

This is from your link.

Key word here is "IF".

Combination needs to be over 26k GVWR as well as the trailer being over 10k GVWR. If you don't meet either threshold you don't need CDL. (for weight)

DUFFSTER

Here you go again. Every Time someone post about a trailer and weight you chime in. I would like to say this very nice, you are wrong . Lets just say I am in the business and if you come through my state P.A and you are pulling a trailer that is over 10k and don't have either a C.D.L , combination license or the proper endorsements your getting a fine!!. You think you can hook a 3/4 ton pick up to a 16000k trailer and haul it because your under 26k it don't work that way here in P.A. Try it one time and the D.O.T will have you for lunch.

Duffster · Mar 2, 2011

Tailrotor said:
DUFFSTER

Here you go again. Every Time someone post about a trailer and weight you chime in. I would like to say this very nice, you are wrong . Lets just say I am in the business and if you come through my state P.A and you are pulling a trailer that is over 10k and don't have either a C.D.L , combination license or the proper endorsements your getting a fine!!. You think you can hook a 3/4 ton pick up to a 16000k trailer and haul it because your under 26k it don't work that way here in P.A. Try it one time and the D.O.T will have you for lunch.

Prove it. :thumbsup:

Show how or where any of the states in question differ from the federal standard.

Tailrotor · Mar 2, 2011

Duffster said:
Prove it. :thumbsup:

Come on over to P.A with your truck and let me know were your at. I will prove it.

All I can say is this for the Gal's & Guys reading this forum don't listen to people sitting at a desk from a thousand miles away typing on a computer that think they know every rule and regulation. Before you tow always check with you state's D.O.T. And that's all I got to say, good luck.

Duffster · Mar 2, 2011

Tailrotor said:
Come on over to P.A with your truck and let me know were your at. I will prove it.

All I can say is this for the Gal's & Guys reading this forum don't listen to people sitting at a desk from a thousand miles away typing on a computer that think they know every rule and regulation. Before you tow always check with you state's D.O.T. And that's all I got to say, good luck.

But they should listen to someone that can't back up his statements. :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

If it is the law it shouldn't be to hard to back up your theory.

Let me ask you this. Do you realize that PA and VA use the federal standard?

Tailrotor · Mar 2, 2011

Duffster said:
But they should listen to someone that can't back up his statements. :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

If it is the law it shouldn't be to hard to back up your theory.

Let me ask you this. Do you realize that PA and VA use the federal standard?

You are correct. But ,
While federal standards set the baseline for weight-station requirements, what is and is not acceptable is ultimately determined by local and state jurisdictions. And this is why you see your State D.O.T & State Police working Hand - n - Hand

Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more if the vehicle(s) being towed has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than 10,000 pounds