Loader B2320 Loader Issue?

[Mounted Madness]

I understand better, I think. If you stick your bucket into a pile, you are not only lifting the dirt in the bucket, but also the weight of the dirt above the bucket, in the pile. Seems possible to have 2 or 3 times the pile weight above the bucket than it's lifting capability.

Perhaps others will comment.

Another physics lesson and question I didn't realize I needed answered all in one.

I never thought about or considered the weight of the material above the material in the bucket. Kinda like a lightbulb (CFL?) moment. Always sensed the need to accomodate the material, but not the weight. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm !:thumbsup:

 

[gyro433]

Maximus,

I am really happy with my B2320, but I wish I had bought the B2620 instead just for the extra lift capacity. The LA364 which equips the B2620 and B2920 has a heaped capacity of 6.5 CU.FT. and a lift capability of about 1025 lbs to 1500mm (about 5 ft).

Therefore even with the heaviest material density normally used around properties such as Wet sand and gravel, (126 lbs per CU.FT. X 6.5 = 819 lbs), the LA364 has still about 200 lbs to spare compare to none on the smaller LA304. Is it worth the 1000.00$ difference, I guess it depends on your needs.

Gyro

 

[maximus1277]

I really like the B2320 as well... and this FEL lift capacity issue will only be a problem when I am pushing the machine to the limit. Thanks to all who commented... I will try to post some pictures soon.

 

[bp fick]

I've no regret, so far, with the B2320. I didn't buy it for it's FEL capability as other than snow, there's only compost and other non-taxing work I do with it. The LA304 seems well matched to the machine. I primarily bought the tractor for the gardens and when I am working out there, I don't even have the FEL on.

I feel the tractor is already too light for it's horsepower, so adding 26 or 29 would do me no good at all. What I do need is more weight, both for the dirt work and snow work. I shall be seeking to rectify that once spring is fully sprung and I can enjoy being out in my unheated shop. Front suitcase weights and filling rear tires are on the docket.

 

[nspec]

I've seen a lot of people drive into a pile with the bucket flat on the ground and then try to just lift it up. As was said before, you are trying to lift the whole pile until you break off a chunk - yes, even loose material.

The proper technique is to curl the bucket back a bit (much stronger pressure with the curl function, too) so that when you raise the boom up, you are 'slicing' upward with the cutting edge.

If you're machine can't lift a full bucket from a pile with the rpm's up there's a problem.

 

[maximus1277]

Yes, I tried several different ways to get the loader to "slice up" as I give it more RPM. That is how I learned on my prior machines to get a nice fully loaded bucket. Also, this is not an HST issue as my tractor has a manual transmission. I just went outside to closely inspect the loader - the hydraulic cylinders, lines and frame of this loader LA304 are fairly small, but well matched for the machine. The deal I got on this new leftover was impossible to beat - so no regrets here.

 

[Stihl22]

I have the same problem if its a problem, i am disapointed about the lifting capacity on the LA304, does anyone try to bost the PSI on the hydro pump to gain lifting capacity? I've seen some people on this forum that bost the pressure on their BX to help the loader work. If it was to redone i would buy a b2620. But when I lift the maximum weight with mine, even with filled rear tire, i found the rear end very unstable and the b2620 only weight 77 pounds more so I suspect a much more unstable tractor...

 

[BrierPatch]

the b2620 only weight 77 pounds more so I suspect a much more unstable tractor...

Actually the B2620 is not bad. I think the loader is almost over powered for the tractor, but I don't have filled rear tires and it seems fine with a mostly full bucket. It starts to become more sketchy the steeper down hill you go, but not as bad as I thought it would be with no rear weight.

I do have the same situation the OP mentioned. If I dig in to a pile of dirt or gravel and I am pushing into it as I lift the loader it will not lift. I have to back off or do the curl thing as well. So you may not be in that much different of a boat with a 2620.

 

[wdchyd]

IIRC, someone here on TBN mentioned that the LA364 will fit the B2320 but the dealers don't mention it (supposedly to get more upcharge $$).....

The big difference is the cyl bore/rod sizes are larger and the gpm's are more on the B2620/B2920 (larger pumps).....

but the LA364 will bolt up the same way as the LA304.......I may be wrong but there was a thread about this last year......

Kinda late after you've already purchased the LA304 like me.....would've liked to have the option.......

 

[Stihl22]

IIRC, someone here on TBN mentioned that the LA364 will fit the B2320 but the dealers don't mention it (supposedly to get more upcharge $$).....

The big difference is the cyl bore/rod sizes are larger and the gpm's are more on the B2620/B2920 (larger pumps).....

but the LA364 will bolt up the same way as the LA304.......I may be wrong but there was a thread about this last year......

Kinda late after you've already purchased the LA304 like me.....would've liked to have the option.......

Yeah i discovert that forum after i buy it, If i have read some post like it probably i would buy a b2620. But i will run it for a few years a probably buy a l32 or l34 after that.

What is the capacity of the front axcel of a b2320 or 2620? i want to see if i have a littel margin to try to bost the pressure to help improve capacity.


Sorry for my english I am a fench canadian from quebec province and i have some problem to express me clearly!