2011 Silverado/Sierra

[Dargo]

I went through at least a dozen Ford 4R100 transmissions from 1990-2004. E4OD's were even worse. Even my Fords not used to plow snow ate through them. Opened up on a bench, I was amazed to see how cheaply they were built inside. Local tranny shop owner used to joke with me "if it weren't for Ford, I wouldn't be in business". I always noticed he drove a GM truck, but what would he know......Ford sells more trucks, so they must be better.

Definately get the Ford tattoo. :thumbsup:

As Dmace said, if someone went through that many transmissions, it's operator error or failure to perform proper maintenance. Besides, I can think of....one... person on the internet who would keep something that went "through at least a dozen" transmissions.

 

[Builder]

As Dmace said, if someone went through that many transmissions, it's operator error or failure to perform proper maintenance. Besides, I can think of....one... person on the internet who would keep something that went "through at least a dozen" transmissions.

Maybe you didn't bother to read all of my last post in which it states that the tranny shop I took it to said if it weren't for Ford, he couldn't stay in the transmission repairing business.

And if I were rough on transmissions or didn't perform proper maintenance as you insinuate, I'd have replaced my Allison trans by now.

 

[Peacock]

I went through at least a dozen Ford 4R100 transmissions from 1990-2004. E4OD's were even worse. Even my Fords not used to plow snow ate through them. Opened up on a bench, I was amazed to see how cheaply they were built inside. Local tranny shop owner used to joke with me "if it weren't for Ford, I wouldn't be in business". I always noticed he drove a GM truck, but what would he know......Ford sells more trucks, so they must be better.

Definately get the Ford tattoo. :thumbsup:

The 4R100 didn't come out until 1999 in the Super Duty's. Although it and the E4OD are VERY closely related.

I don't know how someone could say that transmission is cheaply built. The design is pretty stout. It is all clutch apply for upshifts and only uses a band for engine braking and IIRC reverse. The biggest problems with them were the converter in early models and the fact that when they started to wear hard parts(as all transmissions do) the debris usually got stuck in the valvebody which would invariably end up causing failure in the hydraulics.

 

[Builder]

The 4R100 didn't come out until 1999 in the Super Duty's. Although it and the E4OD are VERY closely related.

I don't know how someone could say that transmission is cheaply built. The design is pretty stout. It is all clutch apply for upshifts and only uses a band for engine braking and IIRC reverse. The biggest problems with them were the converter in early models and the fact that when they started to wear hard parts(as all transmissions do) the debris usually got stuck in the valvebody which would invariably end up causing failure in the hydraulics.

He pointed out the shortcomings to me. We went through TC's like crazy. Sometimes we'd get lucky and the TC would get noisy (sound of ball bearings in a can) and we'd run it to the shop and get an aftermarket converter with some heavier fins brazed on it. Then it would hold, but the stock TC was a joke behind a diesel engine. One of my masons has a '97 stroke with a E4OD and he's on his 3rd one in 137K miles and no snowplowing, just tows a mortar mixer.

 

[jake98]

It amazes me what you guys know about trucks, this was a good read. Good luck with the Ford Brian, you can count on the tatoo lasting longer than it's trans.
My Dmax is working like new at almost 140K, hope it stays that way cuz I sure can't afford another one.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Well, I officially came to the dark side. I am now the owner of a Ford. I can't wait to get my gooseneck hitch in this thing, and see what it will do.

Brian

I think you made a wise choice. You will soon realize why Ford sells so many trucks.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

I went through at least a dozen Ford 4R100 transmissions from 1990-2004. E4OD's were even worse. Even my Fords not used to plow snow ate through them. Opened up on a bench, I was amazed to see how cheaply they were built inside. Local tranny shop owner used to joke with me "if it weren't for Ford, I wouldn't be in business". I always noticed he drove a GM truck, but what would he know......Ford sells more trucks, so they must be better.

Definately get the Ford tattoo. :thumbsup:

Around here Dodge keeps the tranny shops open. Fords tow them in.

Yep, some guys just do not know how to operate equipment.

Chris

 

[Dmace]

I think you made a wise choice. You will soon realize why Ford sells so many trucks.

Chris

Yeah Ford sells so many because people have to keep replacing them as they die! It took 3 dead Ford's for me to finally get a reliable truck.
And I would rather have a truck keeping the tranny shops open than one keeping the diesel engine shops open. $1600 for a tranny rebuild, $6,000 to replace the head gaskets on a Powerstroke. :laughing:

 

[Dargo]

Yeah Ford sells so many because people have to keep replacing them as they die! It took 3 dead Ford's for me to finally get a reliable truck.
And I would rather have a truck keeping the tranny shops open than one keeping the diesel engine shops open. $1600 for a tranny rebuild, $6,000 to replace the head gaskets on a Powerstroke. :laughing:

Wow, I want to sell you mechanical work! Six grand for head gaskets?! :laughing: :laughing: I kept my Dodge for 10 years and loved it, but it DID cost me over $6000 to get a quality ATS transmission to be reliable. The $1500 to $2000 quick fixes on Dodge transmissions might get you a year before the torque monster eats them.

Don't worry Brian, you ought to have a great truck. As you probably know, there really isn't that much difference in the trucks. I've owned several of each. I simply won't consider another new GM because of the billions GM screwed stockholders out of. I laugh each time I look up "the new GM" stock and see it still dropping from it's IPO. If you got toasted by them once, I don't see why people ran out and bought it again...only to see it dropping again.

 

[scoutcub]

Brian -

Congrats on the truck, looks great! Let us know how it performs for you.