Ductape
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Oversized conduit , with a couple nylon ropes run through along with your wire. Should you ever want to run something else out to the shop in the future..... the ropes are there to pull it through. Just food for thought.
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Oversized conduit , with a couple nylon ropes run through along with your wire. Should you ever want to run something else out to the shop in the future..... the ropes are there to pull it through. Just food for thought.
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Good Mornin Scott,
Good idea thanks ! Are you thinkin 3" conduit ? That seems like it would be sufficient.....
BTW, last official act before vacation, put the front lights up, made up some filler boards with the cutouts for the junction boxes, just in case we ever side the building...
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Good Evenin Al and Cyril,
I appreciate your input, and the more I think of it, plastic conduit sounds like a good idea, even though its direct burial !
Hopefully by later june I can get the trench dug ansd install that feeder cable ! Im going on vacation next tuesday and will be gone 11 days so everything will be on hold for awhile !
Something I have always done and recommend to others is to put an underground pull box at each end of your run. This allows you to begin a new run later from the pull box without having to create a new building entry if you want to run another circuit to another location. I'll see if I can remember to get you some pix later to show what I'm refering to if you're interested.
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Thanks Cyril,
No rush its gonna be a few weeks before I get that trench dug and run conduit, but if you come across them please post, for my benefit along with others that may be contemplating the same thing !
crazyal
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I ran the wire in 2" pvc conduit, rule of thumb is the wire should make up no more than 40% of the volume in the conduit. I also ran a second 1" so I could run wire for the garage door opener and phone line. 2" and 1" (or even 1 1/2") is cheaper than a single run of 3". Plus it's better to separate the high voltage and low voltage lines out.
dcyrilc
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Thanks Cyril,
No rush its gonna be a few weeks before I get that trench dug and run conduit, but if you come across them please post, for my benefit along with others that may be contemplating the same thing !
I'll try to remember to get you some pix. I picked up this habit from 26 years of building traffic signals. Everything we do is with PVC pipe and junction boxes. Adopting it at the farm has really helped with adding new stuff later. Some of which has been 20 years later.:laughing: Sure beats digging new trenches over an existing run.
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Good Mornin Guys,
We finally got the trench dug and the supply line out to the barn ! I used a local contractor who did a great job and was very reasonable to dig the trench. It was about a 150 ft run, that we dug approx 2 ft deep. We layered the bottom of the trench with sand, ran the 2" conduit and wire, and then another layer of sand on top. All the digging along with two dump truck loads of sand was only $300.
On the down side we did manage to dig up the phone line, which I thought was on the opposite of the driveway, when it was not ! Your best bet is to have a neighbor call the phone company, and just tell them you have lost your dial tone, dont say anything about excavating ! The phone guy that I got was great, and had us back on line in short order !
I had a licensed electrician hook into the power on the house and make the run out to the barn. All the electrical materials were $330 and he charged me a flat fee for the hookup of $200. It was a few bucks but its done...
The phone guy informed me that all of the coaxial phone cable will be replaced with fiber optic within the next 1 to 1 1/2 years, so I did not run phone cable out there at this time. He suggested a good cordless for the time being if I needed a phone out in the barn. Also the phone line comes into the other side of our cabin so its actually closer to that side of the barn.
Hopefully in the next few weeks I will get the rest of my circuits run, along with some lighting.
Here are a couple of shots of our excavation...
We finally got the trench dug and the supply line out to the barn ! I used a local contractor who did a great job and was very reasonable to dig the trench. It was about a 150 ft run, that we dug approx 2 ft deep. We layered the bottom of the trench with sand, ran the 2" conduit and wire, and then another layer of sand on top. All the digging along with two dump truck loads of sand was only $300.
On the down side we did manage to dig up the phone line, which I thought was on the opposite of the driveway, when it was not !
Your best bet is to have a neighbor call the phone company, and just tell them you have lost your dial tone, dont say anything about excavating ! The phone guy that I got was great, and had us back on line in short order ! I had a licensed electrician hook into the power on the house and make the run out to the barn. All the electrical materials were $330 and he charged me a flat fee for the hookup of $200. It was a few bucks but its done...
The phone guy informed me that all of the coaxial phone cable will be replaced with fiber optic within the next 1 to 1 1/2 years, so I did not run phone cable out there at this time. He suggested a good cordless for the time being if I needed a phone out in the barn. Also the phone line comes into the other side of our cabin so its actually closer to that side of the barn.
Hopefully in the next few weeks I will get the rest of my circuits run, along with some lighting.
Here are a couple of shots of our excavation...
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JDGreenGrass
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Good Mornin Guys,
We finally got the trench dug and the supply line out to the barn ! I used a local contractor who did a great job and was very reasonable to dig the trench. It was about a 150 ft run, that we dug approx 2 ft deep. We layered the bottom of the trench with sand, ran the 2" conduit and wire, and then another layer of sand on top. All the digging along with two dump truck loads of sand was only $300.
On the down side we did manage to dig up the phone line, which I thought was on the opposite of the driveway, when it was not !
I had a licensed electrician hook into the power on the house and make the run out to the barn. All the electrical materials were $330 and he charged me a flat fee for the hookup of $200. It was a few bucks but its done...
The phone guy informed me that all of the coaxial phone cable will be replaced with fiber optic within the next 1 to 1 1/2 years, so I did not run phone cable out there at this time. He suggested a good cordless for the time being if I needed a phone out in the barn. Also the phone line comes into the other side of our cabin so its actually closer to that side of the barn.
Hopefully in the next few weeks I will get the rest of my circuits run, along with some lighting.
Here are a couple of shots of our excavation...
Boy, you got the right machine for that job.:thumbsup:
Good looking trench.
bindian
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Scotty,
Just finished reading this thread. Nice view and nice barn. Any updates?
hugs, Brandi
Just finished reading this thread. Nice view and nice barn. Any updates?
hugs, Brandi
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Good Afternoon Guys,
I finished all the electrical and the insulation, plenty of insulation downstairs and up...
As you can see in the picture Ive got the stove pipe in. As you can see in the picture the uninsulated section of pipe is above the finished ceiling height, which I understand is a no no...
The pipe kit is Selkirk, those pipe sections are screw interlocked. Im figuring that the insulated pipe section needs to be at least a foot below the finished ceiling height ??? Any thoughts on this...
I have alled Selkirk on the phone and never did get an answer, just a run around bouncing from one person to another.
In the installation instructions all they show is acceptable distances from insulated pipe to framing joists...
I have since framed that section around the pipe in, to the instructions, giing at least 2" clearance to the 8" insulated pipe.
Thank for your input !
I finished all the electrical and the insulation, plenty of insulation downstairs and up...
As you can see in the picture Ive got the stove pipe in. As you can see in the picture the uninsulated section of pipe is above the finished ceiling height, which I understand is a no no...
The pipe kit is Selkirk, those pipe sections are screw interlocked. Im figuring that the insulated pipe section needs to be at least a foot below the finished ceiling height ??? Any thoughts on this...
I have alled Selkirk on the phone and never did get an answer, just a run around bouncing from one person to another.
In the installation instructions all they show is acceptable distances from insulated pipe to framing joists...
I have since framed that section around the pipe in, to the instructions, giing at least 2" clearance to the 8" insulated pipe.
Thank for your input !
