Grand L 3940 vs. Mahindra 4035

[RJJR]

Folks,
You can see from my previous posts that I'm leaining toward the purchase of a Grand L3940 and loader. But yesterday, I met a man who runs a feed operation that told me I'd be doing myself an injustice if I didn't consider the Mahindra 4035. He's been in the grain business for 30 years and mostly ran JDs so he couldn't speak directly to the comparisons of these two tractors. But he said he now runs nothing but Mahindra and for the money its the best value out there. I realize this is one man's opinion which is why I'm posting here to ask specifically "what am I giving up if I move from the Kubota GL3940 to the Mahindra 4035? Dealer replies are welcome if you can compare the two. I know this is the Kuboto fourum which is why I'm asking here as you may have more insight. The Mahindra is obviously priced more agressively so what am I giving up for the difference in price?
Thank you,
RJ

 

[TripleR]

I am not familiar with Mahindra tractors as there isn't much in the way of dealer support.

Right off hand the HST+ is all I can think of.

"But he said he now runs nothing but Mahindra and for the money its the best value out there."

I personally am more interested in the best tractor out there for me regardless of price, within reason of course.

For you, it may be the Mahindra or it may be the Kubota, I would sure try them both and consider dealerships to boot.

 

[Grateful11]

You'd be giving up a vast parts and supplies network, resale value, looks like no hydro is available and you'd be getting a 3cyl. instead of a 4cyl. What is price difference?

Mahindra 4035 looks to be one of their more modern models, has more up-to-date features than some of the older models.

MahindraUSA 35 Series

Around here Mahindra dealers seem to pop up one year and gone the next. That's why we tend to stick with mainline companies. Our L3940HST Kubota is the first non-Red tractor this farm has had in over 75 years. It will not likely be the last. My wife's operation has 6 tractors including the Kubota, all the rest are Farmall, International and Case IH.

The L3940HST is the most user friendly tractor we've ever operated, it's like driving a car, a little over a year old and has 205 hours on it. Next easiest is the CaseIH 5140 with Power Shuttle transmission and power reverser.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

You'd be giving up a vast parts and supplies network, resale value, looks like no hydro is available and you'd be getting a 3cyl. instead of a 4cyl. What is price difference?

Mahindra 4035 looks to be one of their more modern models, has more up-to-date features than some of the older models.

MahindraUSA 35 Series

Around here Mahindra dealers seem to pop up one year and gone the next. That's why we tend to stick with mainline companies. Our L3940HST Kubota is the first non-Red tractor this farm has had in over 75 years. It will not likely be the last. My wife's operation has 6 tractors including the Kubota, all the rest are Farmall, International and Case IH.

Grateful11, your link is to an original add. The new 4035 comes with either a hydro, shuttle or power shuttle transmission.

Both tractors are very nice machines. A person really needs to sit on each machine and see how it feels to them. They are the one who will be in the seat, it should feel right to them.

 

[Grateful11]

I see that I went back to edit my reply and put in there that there was a HST available but forgot to click save changes in another tab. The Mahindra is not a bad looking tractor but my wife's in it for the long haul two of her tractors are about 35 years old and still run and look great, she doesn't like trade much once she gets what she needs. She is in process of updating some of her implements, rake, grain drill and maybe a new Haybine or Discbine next year.

 

[LD1]

You'd actually be doing yourself and injustice if you didn't consider ALL comparable models from the brands in which you have dealer support for. NOT just kubota VS Mahindra.

Some other good ones are JD, New Holland, Kioti, MF, etc.

And you'd also be doing an injustice if you didnt compare other similar models in each brand.

For example, you are looking at the L3940, have you looked at the L4400. Has fewer features, as it is an economy model, but a good value for the $$$. Or have you considered going up one model size to the L4240. Darn near Identical tractor as the L3940, but it comes with the stronger loader that will lift ~800lbs more than the L3940 @ the pins.

 

[RJJR]

I considered the L series and was really interested unitl I read about the problems with the jerky hitch. I'm pricing the Mahindra today or tomorrow so I'll see if there's going to be a signifant difference.
Thanks

 

[art]

The grand L series is a full featured tractor and the Mahindra is a more basic tractor more like the L 4400 is in the Kubota line-up.

Things that I look for in tractors are often small and then There is what I listen to. I like quite engines, some just sound like that they are coming apart even when new!
Look at the fit of the loader, some makes require the bolt holes to be egged out to get the bolts in which will give you a weak mount! Rare on a Kubota.
Look for things lower then the axles, some tractors still have the front of the steering linkage below the axle, great to get caught when going through mud as the axle often protects the linkage from damage.
Sometimes there are other parts such as brake linkages and hydraulic lines.

There is more such as dealer support which is your first thing to consider although there is a difference of need on different makes.

 

[Grandad4]

I considered the L series and was really interested unitl I read about the problems with the jerky hitch.

... which isn't on the Grand L series Kubotas; it's an issue for some users of the basic L's and smaller B series. The Grand L's have full position control with no such issues.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

The grand L series is a full featured tractor and the Mahindra is a more basic tractor more like the L 4400 is in the Kubota line-up.

Things that I look for in tractors are often small and then There is what I listen to. I like quite engines, some just sound like that they are coming apart even when new!
Look at the fit of the loader, some makes require the bolt holes to be egged out to get the bolts in which will give you a weak mount! Rare on a Kubota.
Look for things lower then the axles, some tractors still have the front of the steering linkage below the axle, great to get caught when going through mud as the axle often protects the linkage from damage.
Sometimes there are other parts such as brake linkages and hydraulic lines.

There is more such as dealer support which is your first thing to consider although there is a difference of need on different makes.

Art, will you please tell us why it is that you feel that the Mahindra 4035 is better compared to the L4400. You do know that Mahindra has different levels of tractors just like Kubota does, don't you? Mahindra's 4035 is far from an entry level tractor and has std features that are options on the Grand L 3940.

 

[RJJR]

Art, will you please tell us why it is that you feel that the Mahindra 4035 is better compared to the L4400. You do know that Mahindra has different levels of tractors just like Kubota does, don't you? Mahindra's 4035 is far from an entry level tractor and has std features that are options on the Grand L 3940.

Those details would help me too.
Thanks

 

[Cat_Driver]

One decision that I always stick with is - who's going to be around in 10-20 years.

Seems Companies have no problem stopping production on anything they feel like whenever they feel like it.

Take Ford discontinuing the Expedition, GM no more Hummer, Saturn GONE, etc.etc.

You want to buy something that pretty stable and that to means Kubota. All Companies come in with a lot of fan fair and great service and great prices, then leave like a thief in the night.

 

[crazyal]

You can beat yourself up over an over looking at each brand. I think the Mahindra is a nice tractor but I ruled it out quickly. I had originally was going to finace part of the cost but Mahindra does it differently than Kubota. With Kubota you get the best price you can and if you pay cash you get a cash discount. With Mahindra you get a "special" price if you want to take advantage of the 0% financing.

That's like a car dealer saying we can get your monthly payment down to this while trying to hide the fact of how much you will pay over the life of the loan. I'm a give me your best price and if I like it I'll buy it or move on.

As for options the only thing I noticed was rear work lights. At the end of the day I haven't seen a different brand's model that I would want as much as my GL. I've tried NH, Kioti, Case, Mahindra, Bobcat, and even a Jimna. I sat on a JD but the dealer wasn't open so I didn't get to drive it.

 

[Grateful11]

Y'all had me going there for a minute because there's no jerky hitch problems
with our L3940.

I will say this, the Auto Throttle and Stall Guard are worth whatever the price
difference is between the Mahindra and the Kubota, you can take that to the
bank. Nobody else has it but you can bet they're trying to get it.

I asked for the price difference the other day and haven't received an answer, if one
is seriously considering the Mahindra the price difference would have to be huge for me.

 

[Grandad4]

Just an opinion about Mahindra from a Kubota guy. They are reportedly one of the world's largest tractor manufacturers, but are just breaking into the US market. So you can't dismiss them out of hand, even though they seem like the new kid on the block in our country. Obviously, trying to gain a foothold here means they will be very competitive on price and also try to offer equal or better value compared to more established makes. Equally obviously, dealerships and parts availability may not be as well developed. They certainly seem to have a pretty good advertising budget. Radio and TV spots, magazines, etc.

Is it worth taking a chance on buying their product? I don't know, but I'd give them a fair chance and a serious look. Lots of guys did that with Belarus a while back. Tough old tractors, but the business model - if there ever was one - failed and the brand is now an orphan in the US. But Kubota came into the US at about the same time and now leads the compact market. So it's a roll of the dice.

Being an old Farmall nut myself, I have to like that Mahindra got started in tractor building from a partnership with IH in the 1960's. The first Mahindra's were license built IH designs. Maybe that legacy carries into their current product line somehow.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Those details would help me too.
Thanks

Not even considering the weight advantage that the 4035 has, it comes std with 1 rear remote with a 2nd one optional. It comes std with draft control, some people say that you don't need draft control and they are right, you don't, but if you know how and when to use it it is a wonderful thing to have. The 4035 has extendable draft links std. There are a few obvious features that are std on the 4035 and are either options on the L3940 or not available at all.

I still say to print out the specs of each tractor and take a good look at them. You still need to at least sit on each machine, doesn't matter if one is better than the other if the one that specs out better is uncomfortable for you. Both will get the job done. Have you considered other makes? If you have other dealers around, you really should check out as many as you can, they all are good machines in my opinion and all the variables need to be taken into consideration.

Just my :2cents:

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Just an opinion about Mahindra from a Kubota guy. They are reportedly one of the world's largest tractor manufacturers, but are just breaking into the US market. So you can't dismiss them out of hand, even though they seem like the new kid on the block in our country. Obviously, trying to gain a foothold here means they will be very competitive on price and also try to offer equal or better value compared to more established makes. Equally obviously, dealerships and parts availability may not be as well developed. They certainly seem to have a pretty good advertising budget. Radio and TV spots, magazines, etc.

Is it worth taking a chance on buying their product? I don't know, but I'd give them a fair chance and a serious look. Lots of guys did that with Belarus a while back. Tough old tractors, but the business model - if there ever was one - failed and the brand is now an orphan in the US. But Kubota came into the US at about the same time and now leads the compact market. So it's a roll of the dice.

Being an old Farmall nut myself, I have to like that Mahindra got started in tractor building from a partnership with IH in the 1960's. The first Mahindra's were license built IH designs. Maybe that legacy carries into their current product line somehow.

May I ask how long does one have to be sell a product to get past the just breaking in time frame? Mahindra has been selling tractors in the United States for more than a decade.

 

[beppington]

I have an L3940 & my dad has a ~10-year-old Mahindra 4110. His 4110 is a good tractor. No problems, & it'd be fine if that was my tractor ... however, it is not as full-featured or as well-built as mine. I'd call mine a 9.95 / 10 & his maybe an 8.4 out of 10.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I have an L3940 & my dad has a ~10-year-old Mahindra 4110. His 4110 is a good tractor. No problems, & it'd be fine if that was my tractor ... however, it is not as full-featured or as well-built as mine. I'd call mine a 9.95 / 10 & his maybe an 8.4 out of 10.

His 4110 is a re-badged TYM tractor built in Korea. The 4035 is built by Mahindra in India and would be considered an upgrade from the 4110 in my opinion.

 

[RJJR]

Kubota dealer is 5 miles from home. JD and Mahindra are both about 35 miles away. It's dizzying for someone who is not familair with tractors to consider all brands. I did for a week and then eliminated NH and Kioti and others for various reasons with the main reason being no dealer for those brands within 60 miles. It looked to me like a JD with comparable specs to the 3940 was going to run a couple to several thousand higher. Was pretty much set on Kubota until somone pointed out Mahindra and the potential cost savings for the heavier tractor. Can't confirm those savings yet as I've requested a quote on a 4035 and FEL to see. I appreciate all of this information and will sit in both tractors before making a decision. My biggest problem is being able to compare apples to apples among the different brands. Most equipment in my area is green and I don't know a single Mahindra owner personally so I'm grasping for information. I expect this will be the only tractor new tractor I ever buy so I want one that will last and have the support I need over the long haul. I'll post prices for comparison once I have them.
Thanks for all the help.
RJ