Problem on a steep hill(diesel)

   / Problem on a steep hill(diesel) #11  
I know that it is not recommended to shift gears on a slope. Can not say that it applies in your case with a runaway engine, but free wheeling on a slope is a big no-no.
 
   / Problem on a steep hill(diesel) #12  
Hi! Most engines Gas or diesel cannot run for a long time at more 30 deg.. You can damage your engine Some airplane engines can run all position .They have dry oil pan Oil cannot go in cylinders or pistons. Two cycles engines can run in all position .May be Some old JLO Rotax Yamaha snowmobile engines could be adapted at your Bcs. Be careful! Very steppy hills can be dangerous for you too Good Luck ! Oldmech
 
   / Problem on a steep hill(diesel)
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#13  
I know that it is not recommended to shift gears on a slope. Can not say that it applies in your case with a runaway engine, but free wheeling on a slope is a big no-no.

Have that issue with the bailer. You have to be careful and always set the brake before putting the tractor in neutral. And that's a bad situation because you and the tractor brakes together will NOT stop the bailer.

Cory
 
   / Problem on a steep hill(diesel) #14  
Another way to stop a runaway diesel is to engage the decompression lever ( if it has one ) . Hopefully I will never have to do that on my two-wheeler .
 
   / Problem on a steep hill(diesel)
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#15  
Hi! Most engines Gas or diesel cannot run for a long time at more 30 deg.. You can damage your engine Some airplane engines can run all position .They have dry oil pan Oil cannot go in cylinders or pistons. Two cycles engines can run in all position .May be Some old JLO Rotax Yamaha snowmobile engines could be adapted at your Bcs. Be careful! Very steppy hills can be dangerous for you too Good Luck ! Oldmech

I didn't see your post until now, my previous post was being typed as you posted it. I've seen some 4 strokes burn oil on steep hills, but never seen one damaged as long as it has oil pressure. And I've had the idea of a dry sumped oil system stuck in my head also, too complicated a project as far as I can figure. Plus all the dry sump systems I've seen are very expensive. And I despise 2-stroke engines, I'd buy a 4-stroke chain saw if I could find one. Even my RC airplane is 4-stroke.

I've got the wheels all the way out plus spacers. The machine seems more stable than I had expected.

Another way to stop a runaway diesel is to engage the decompression lever ( if it has one ) . Hopefully I will never have to do that on my two-wheeler .

Yeah, decompression works great to shut down a run away if it's got one. This one doesn't.
 
   / Problem on a steep hill(diesel)
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#17  
my recollection is that my old MB 280 diesel had an emergency shutoff that puts a metal plate over the air intake (downstream from the airfilter)...basically a "throttle plate" (even though the engine was FI)

You might be interested in air intake shut off valve by amot control - emergency shut down valve

Something like that is needed, I thought about rigging something up to block the air off. The reason I haven't is the pcv where the oil is introduced is inside the intake runner. I'm afraid if I choke off the air it will just pull in enough oil to hydro lock the motor.

Cory
 
   / Problem on a steep hill(diesel) #18  
the motor has hydraulic lifters and they should float before the engine blows up. /QUOTE]

Depending on the head configuration those floating valves may get to hit the piston's.

Many engines use an oil spray on the underside of the piston for cooling.

Positive air shut-offs work well.:):)
 
   / Problem on a steep hill(diesel) #19  
Hi! I find a special industrial engine ROBIN EH25D . This engine can run 100% duty or continue at incline 45 deg. The best I seen. Gas engine 8 hp Din This engine is on AGRIA two-wheels tractors and others industrial machinery. Good Luck ! Oldmech
 
   / Problem on a steep hill(diesel)
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#20  
Hi! I find a special industrial engine ROBIN EH25D . This engine can run 100% duty or continue at incline 45 deg. The best I seen. Gas engine 8 hp Din This engine is on AGRIA two-wheels tractors and others industrial machinery. Good Luck ! Oldmech

Thanks, I'll start watching around for one. Any idea if mounting will be a bolt up deal, or more complicated?

Cory
 

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