Laying Water pipe

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I wouldn't use pvc one mistake blowing it out and it is toast.

At my old cabin we had almost 1000ft of poly pipe laying on the ground down the mountain from the spring to the cabin it froze many times over the 20 years we would leave it trickle to try and prevent it from freezing
but some times it still froze.
We never had an issue with the frozen pipe when it thawed

Go to a good plumbing supply I got 1" poly pipe in 400 ft sections to reduce the couplings and joints for my well at the new cabin. We did the same thing at the old cabin with 400ft rolls down the hill. We did eventually cover it with rocks because the deer hove would cut it but that is a whole different issue.

oil creek plastics makes it in 500'ers too
Aqua-Jet Tubing | Oil Creek Plastics, Inc.
 
   / Laying Water pipe #42  
Directional bore the pipe in. $6 a foot No mess and deep as you want. Pull a piece of copper wire back with the pipe so you can locate it in the future.
 
   / Laying Water pipe #43  
Directional bore the pipe in. $6 a foot No mess and deep as you want. Pull a piece of copper wire back with the pipe so you can locate it in the future.

Its over 350 feet. :)

I decided on the black poly tubing. Going to pick it up this morning. If it doesn't hold up I'll worry about it then. But for now its the fastest and easiest solution. I need to be working on other projects as the summer is slipping away....
 
   / Laying Water pipe #44  
Be sure to test before backfilling.
 
   / Laying Water pipe #45  
Gabby - you've admitted to having sandy loam soil .......lucky .....makes all ground work so much easier than any other type soil I can imagine. I have 3-6" of that followed by a mix of clay and glacier rock (round rocks from golf ball to soccer ball size). I would love to pull in pipe as you described -- but doubt it will work -- gonna try though....hopefully this winter. Want to run 400' from well to a green house (spring project).
 
   / Laying Water pipe #46  
Gabby - you've admitted to having sandy loam soil .......lucky .....makes all ground work so much easier than any other type soil I can imagine. I have 3-6" of that followed by a mix of clay and glacier rock (round rocks from golf ball to soccer ball size). I would love to pull in pipe as you described -- but doubt it will work -- gonna try though....hopefully this winter. Want to run 400' from well to a green house (spring project).

Good luck, Mike. Y'all had glaciers in Texas??
 
   / Laying Water pipe #48  
I was unable to locate my well near my garden. I tried, but could not find water by the garden. I ended up putting my well points (4 points) along a swamp about 350 feet from the garden. I'm using a sprinkler pump that can pump up to 45GPM. Now I need to run a water line about 350 feet.

My goal is to have as much water volume/pressure as possible because I want to be able to run all of my garden sprinklers at one time. 4 - 6 sprinklers and I need them to throw water as far as possible.

So...that being said...I'm going to run 2 inch water line from the pump to the garden. I was going to buy the black polyethylene tubing that comes in 100 foot rolls and is used for underground sprinklers. But I'm a bit concerned after reading this forum. Some folks were saying that the black stuff only lasts about 5 years and is prone to splitting? I am in Minnesota. I was thinking of burying it about 12 inches deep and then blowing the line out in the fall.

Some people were recommending trenching and running the white schedule 40 PVC (10 foot sections with couplers). Is it really worth doing that? Its a lot of extra work and time to run it that way. But I want it to last for 20+ years...

Would appreciate hearing your thoughts.

Thanks!
PVC will Freeze and bust easily don't use it...
I would use PEX Pipe in areas that may indeed freeze, PEX Pipe will freeze solid and not crack or split. It is very resistant to changes in temp's. Also a 1" PEX Pipe will deliver as much water as a 1" PVC line will, due to the structure of the inside wall of the PEX Pipe. And also it should be able to supply your 4 to 6 sprinklers at once. You can get Sprinkler heads to accommodate your deliver needs. A 1" Line can deliver a lot of water and its cheaper, if you need you could just lay (2) 1" lines and have a spare or use both at once. Polly would be cheaper but me, I would go PEX Pipe. I also think that 2" is unnecessary 1 1/2" at most, just my thoughts from experience.
 
   / Laying Water pipe #49  
PVC will Freeze and bust easily don't use it...
I would use PEX Pipe in areas that may indeed freeze, PEX Pipe will freeze solid and not crack or split. It is very resistant to changes in temp's. Also a 1" PEX Pipe will deliver as much water as a 1" PVC line will, due to the structure of the inside wall of the PEX Pipe. And also it should be able to supply your 4 to 6 sprinklers at once. You can get Sprinkler heads to accommodate your deliver needs. A 1" Line can deliver a lot of water and its cheaper, if you need you could just lay (2) 1" lines and have a spare or use both at once. Polly would be cheaper but me, I would go PEX Pipe. I also think that 2" is unnecessary 1 1/2" at most, just my thoughts from experience.

Where do you see that 1" PEX flows the same as 1" PVC?

This chart shows a big difference.
220104d1309960033-laying-water-pipe-pipeflows.png

I like the idea of PEX, but having to go up in size and the cost of the fittings is making me think PVC and that is how the rest of our place is plumbed by the former owner.
 
   / Laying Water pipe #50  
Where do you see that 1" PEX flows the same as 1" PVC?

This chart shows a big difference.
View attachment 318301

I like the idea of PEX, but having to go up in size and the cost of the fittings is making me think PVC and that is how the rest of our place is plumbed by the former owner.

Don't Believe everything you read! Even my writings, I may be wrong, but, as a plumber for 25 yrs and the new technology of the way PEX is now made (PEX-A Preferably) there is very little if any difference in flow in the 2 (PVC or PEX 1" and up) and for running Sprinkler heads you can buy heads to accommodate the GPM you just may have to run the pump a little longer but still get the same affect. Cost wise PEX is the best alternative, Fittings are not that much anymore and you do not need messy glue and primer, crimp it and turn it on, also PEX can withstand a lot more abuse than PVC or Polly Pipe. Go to PEX - Radiant Heat - Radiant Heating - Plumbing Supplies - PexSupply.com and look at some of the Videos on PEX. PEX has come a long way and will outlast me and you both as long as you dont run over it with a bull dozer!!! You will find PEX a lot easier to work with and I use the Pinch Clamps to crimp it tight instead of the copper rings, this way you only need one tool for all sizes of Pipe!!!
 
 

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