Dog vs. cat vs. cops

[JDgreen227]

I had a CC permit for a while, but never renewed it once it expired. The main reason I got it was so that I could buy a gun without a waiting period. I also carried a handgun in a backpack occasionally when hiking. If I remember the rules right, Idaho restricts weapons whether concealed or not in certain public places like schools, churches, etc.

Funny story, I would occasionally hand my CCW permit to a LEO by mistake instead of my driver's license at a traffic stop. It was always fun to see the officer back pedal and start asking if there were weapons in the vehicle. I don't ever remember getting a ticket when I pulled my concealed weapons permit out by mistake. Maybe I should have done that more often.

Now, can you tell us just WHY you were pulled over for traffic stops....?? I have not been stopped nor pulled over by the police since 1977, and I drove for a living from 1971 thru 2002. The only reason I was pulled over in 1977 was because my state-owned work truck still had the permanent red-white-blue Bicentennial (sp?) plates the state put on it's vehicles the former year, they were still valid. The officer said he stopped me because one of my wheels was wobbling, yeah, right...I knew the real reason. Oh yes, my last moving violation and LEGIT traffic stop....1972 !!!!!!!

 

[Sigarms]

Now, can you tell us just WHY you were pulled over for traffic stops....?? I have not been stopped nor pulled over by the police since 1977, and I drove for a living from 1971 thru 2002. The only reason I was pulled over in 1977 was because my state-owned work truck still had the permanent red-white-blue Bicentennial (sp?) plates the state put on it's vehicles the former year, they were still valid. The officer said he stopped me because one of my wheels was wobbling, yeah, right...I knew the real reason. Oh yes, my last moving violation and LEGIT traffic stop....1972 !!!!!!!

I'm guessing not everyone is as good as a driver as you are.

Heck, I was pulled over in Escalante Utah for doing 26 in a 25 by a State trooper with out of state plates. Talk about a funny story when the box of .44's fell from the glove box when I opened it.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Now, can you tell us just WHY you were pulled over for traffic stops....?? I have not been stopped nor pulled over by the police since 1977, and I drove for a living from 1971 thru 2002. The only reason I was pulled over in 1977 was because my state-owned work truck still had the permanent red-white-blue Bicentennial (sp?) plates the state put on it's vehicles the former year, they were still valid. The officer said he stopped me because one of my wheels was wobbling, yeah, right...I knew the real reason. Oh yes, my last moving violation and LEGIT traffic stop....1972 !!!!!!!

It's been a few years since I've been pulled over. I used to drive a lot to and from work, and I was always in a hurry. To top it off, the cruise control in my little S-10 truck at the time didn't work.

 

[turnkey4099]

Just a warning on CCW in vehicles. It is quite legal and nothing wrong with it BUT:

If stopped be sure to tell the officer that there is a weapon in the vehicle. Save one H of a lot of trouble if they discover it and you didn't tell them.

You might think it is funny if they are startled by a sudden surprise but I gaurantee you _they_ won't be amused and when the dust settles, _you_ won't be either.

Harry K

 

[Bird]

In Texas now you can carry a concealed weapon in your vehicle without a permit. It simply has to be "concealed". You can lay it in the seat beside youself and throw a towel over it if you wish. The idea behind that law was to stop car jackings. As for the CHL, it's not "law" but what the Texas Department of Public Safety recommends below:

Traffic stop policies vary among law enforcement agencies. Your local police department or sheriff's office can tell you what to expect if stopped while carrying a handgun within their jurisdictions.

Texas Department of Public Safety troopers will ask you:

• Whether you are licensed to carry a concealed handgun
• Whether you have the gun with you
• Where the gun is located

A trooper may disarm a licensee anytime he or she feels that safety is at risk. The trooper will return the gun at the end of the traffic stop when the threat to safety has passed.

When stopped by a law enforcement officer, DPS recommends that you:

• Keep your hands in plain sight
• Cooperate fully with the police officer
• If you have a gun with you, tell the officer as soon as possible
• Don't make any quick movements, especially toward the weapon
• At night, turn on your vehicle's dome light

 

[Car Doc]

We are told to hand them both at the same time and dont talk about having a gun etc let them do the talking and keep hands in plain sight.

We cant carry a loaded gun in the car within reach unless we have a CCH go figure the difference between Texas and Kansas on that! We designed our CCH after Texas because it is very well done law.

I haven't had anyone yet even ask me about my gun and I have had to show ID 3 times so far and been armed all 3 times and let go 3 times.

Well I was armed also in the wreck I got in when a goat ran out in front of me and I ended up smacking and killing the goat and then crashing down a road sign on one side of the road and ended up spun around and facing backwards on the other side of the road facing the direction I just came from (with no hood on the car to boot) in a deep steep sided ditch with 2 feet of water in I got a no insurance ticket on that one. But I got 1 ticket he could have thrown his patrol car at me I was so far in the wrong but he didn't.

My wife on the other hand was asked if she had a gun in the car which she did and answered affirmative and that was that let her go with a warning for what ever she had done she probably squealed tires going from one garage sale to another.

 

[RoyJackson]

In most places concealed carry is a greater right than open carry (more diffecult to obtain)

JB

A Right is not something the government can grant...

 

[JB4310]

A Right is not something the government can grant...

Well they do seem to have the power to regulate our rights, evidenced by the fact some areas have very strict criteria for issuing concealed carry permits.
In other words you have the right only if you meet the requirements

I guess I should of used the word privilege, But then some might say no it is a right :confused2: So I'm not sure which is more accurate.

I consider gun ownership a right, guaranteed by the second amendment.

I feel concealed carry is more of a privilege, since not everyone who would like to is allowed to.


JB

 

[Sigarms]

In other words you have the right only if you meet the requirements

Ironic isn't it that ANYONE who pretty much isn't a convicted felon can buy a gun but you have to take a drivers test to drive?

 

[Bird]

Ironic isn't it that ANYONE who pretty much isn't a convicted felon can buy a gun but you have to take a drivers test to drive?

I guess it depends on which state law you are thinking of. Just as most anyone can buy a gun, anyone can buy a car. But then carrying that gun, or driving that car, might require a little more. In Texas, at least, and if you're 25 or older (used to be 16), you can take the driving test without any formal schooling or training, but you do have to go to a school to get a CHL (Concealed Handgun License) regardless of age.