New owner of a 2006 TC30-any advice?

V1Rotate · Sep 30, 2011

jinman said:
As Roy mentioned, the TC30 has no sub-frame mount for the loader. I'm not sure about your Rhino loader, but the New Holland 7308 loader doesn't use a sub-frame. That just means you will have to be careful not to slam the loader into things or lift with one side so the tractor is twisted. I also do not recommend trying to handle round bales with your loader. I'd use a 3PH bale spear on the rear instead of trying to lift with the loader. You may get the bale into the air, but if you hit a pot hole or rock while traveling, the dynamic loads will really put a heavy shock on the tractor and loader. The ideal situation is to have a tractor with a sub-frame and a skid steer quick attach adapter. No sub-frame and a bucket spear is just really asking for trouble on a TC30 in my opinion. You might get away with it for years, but one time is all it takes to be a very costly mistake. Big tractors or CUTs with sub-frames are needed for the safest round bale handling with the FEL.

Jim
You say that the TC-30 does not have a sub frame for the 7308 loader.
I know that my TC-29DA is totally different from the TC-30 but is my 7308 loader mounted differently than it would be on a TC-30? Is it a stronger mount?

jinman · Sep 30, 2011

V1Rotate said:
Jim
You say that the TC-30 does not have a sub frame for the 7308 loader.
I know that my TC-29DA is totally different from the TC-30 but is my 7308 loader mounted differently than it would be on a TC-30? Is it a stronger mount?

I believe your TC29DA also does not have a sub-frame. Do you have the 7308 or the 14LA loader? The 14LA is much stronger than the 7308. I believe the 7308 lift capacity 19" in front of the bucket pins is around 900 lb. The 14LA is about 1400 lb. I just don't consider the 7308 to be an acceptable loader for handling round bales. I don't have any direct experience and am just going on how my TC45D with a 16LA feels. It handles round bales easily and has a full sub-frame. I just can't recommend handling round bales with the TC30's loader. What do you think?

V1Rotate · Sep 30, 2011

jinman said:
I believe your TC29DA also does not have a sub-frame. Do you have the 7308 or the 14LA loader? The 14LA is much stronger than the 7308. I believe the 7308 lift capacity 19" in front of the bucket pins is around 900 lb. The 14LA is about 1400 lb. I just don't consider the 7308 to be an acceptable loader for handling round bales. I don't have any direct experience and am just going on how my TC45D with a 16LA feels. It handles round bales easily and has a full sub-frame. I just can't recommend handling round bales with the TC30's loader. What do you think?

Could You explain exactly what you mean by "sub frame". My TC-29 has the 7308 loader and it mounts to a frame that crosses under the tractor just beneath the bell housing. I also have a Woods backhoe with a sub frame that attaches to the loader frame.

As far as lifting goes, my loader has the 68 inch bucket and it will lift a full load of top soil but it stuggles to do it.

Jim

V1Rotate · Sep 30, 2011

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this thread.

j t huskins · Sep 30, 2011

Sounds like your winter temps will warrent a block heater. My TC40A is a 4x4 manuel shuttle shift. I have a personel prefrence for a gear tractor vs HST because I buy for long term ownership. The FEL without s subframe is a great concern if you plan to work the tractor hard. I did not realize that the 30 did not use a subframe.

jinman · Sep 30, 2011

V1Rotate said:
Could You explain exactly what you mean by "sub frame".

I'm on the road right now, but I'll be home early next week and post a photo.

V1Rotate · Oct 1, 2011

jinman said:
I'm on the road right now, but I'll be home early next week and post a photo.

Thanks

ksshooter · Oct 3, 2011

Jerry..thanks for the information.
RoyJ-Too late! I am now Alarmed. I did see a post in here regarding breaking the motor. I know it was an NH, but do not remember the model. I do remember the solutions was EXPENSIVE! I am wondering now if there is a Preferred loader for the NH which may provide better support. The calming post came from Shu who had one for quite some time and it appears it worked well for him. I will admit I was leaning toward Kubota but this one showed close with low hours and a decent price. I don't plan on moving much dirt or rock with it. I did that with my Ford 2000 which was a HORSE! When I look back it is hard to believe I never broke it!! Thanks for the words of wisdom!! I will try to be careful. I have been waiting awhile to have a tractor this nice so I hope everything works out.

jinman · Oct 4, 2011

V1Rotate said:
Could You explain exactly what you mean by "sub frame". My TC-29 has the 7308 loader and it mounts to a frame that crosses under the tractor just beneath the bell housing. I also have a Woods backhoe with a sub frame that attaches to the loader frame.

Here are some photos of the TC30, a TC33 with a 15LA and another with the 7308 loader, plus a photo of my tractor with the 16LA loader. You can clearly see that if there is no backhoe installed on the TC30 and TC33, no subframe is mounted. When the TC30 has a backhoe, the subframe is added. However, on the TC45 with the 16LA loader and no backhoe, there is still a subframe. The subframe on the TC45 and all Class III Boomers is very beefy. Is this the info you were looking for?

ksshooter · Oct 4, 2011

Jim-Do you know of a loader for the TC30 that comes with a subframe? I looked last night and the loader simply bolts to (what I believe is ) the Transmission. Without a frame going back to the rear axle I cannot see anything else that anyone else's loader could bolt on to. Do you or anyone else know of anything I can do to reduce the risk other than operate it with kid gloves? Obviously having the quick attach bucket just adds more weight. Then again, the guy who had it before me used it for five years and only sold it because he moved back to town. Now I have seen the pictures and read more threads and I think as long as I do not get stupid I will be okay. I also now know where to look on my tractor for any cracks, etc. which I will do tonight. This tractor is new to me I feel the controls operate an empty loader pretty fast...meaning it is easy to bounce it when you stop either an up or down motion! Is that rate adjustable or do I just need to get used to the operation? It probably moves slower under load.