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[aczlan]

HEHE..Just for the heck of it, lets see how far off of the original post we can take this

If you ever have to change the tires on a 1997 Dodge 1500 4x4, remember that they take a 3/4" socket, NOT a 19mm socket. A 19mm socket is a different size and it is enough bigger that you can snap it if you reef on a 3/4" lug nug with one.
Or so I was told by a "mechanic" at Monroe when I took my wife's truck in to have them loosen the lugnuts after I snapped a socket bouncing on a 4' cheater bar (250#+ of me bouncing on a 4' cheater bar over a breaker bar wouldn't budge the lugnut and he tells me that the reason the nut wouldn't come off is because I was using a 19mm socket rather than a 3/4" one .

For those who dont know, 3/4" is 19.05mm.

Aaron Z

 

[grsthegreat]

If you ever have to change the tires on a 1997 Dodge 1500 4x4, remember that they take a 3/4" socket, NOT a 19mm socket. A 19mm socket is a different size and it is enough bigger that you can snap it if you reef on a 3/4" lug nug with one.
Or so I was told by a "mechanic" at Monroe when I took my wife's truck in to have them loosen the lugnuts after I snapped a socket bouncing on a 4' cheater bar (250#+ of me bouncing on a 4' cheater bar over a breaker bar wouldn't budge the lugnut and he tells me that the reason the nut wouldn't come off is because I was using a 19mm socket rather than a 3/4" one .

For those who dont know, 3/4" is 19.05mm.

Aaron Z

I thought Dodge has made tires an option on their new trucks

 

[LD1]

(250#+ of me bouncing on a 4' cheater bar over a breaker bar wouldn't budge the lugnut and he tells me that the reason the nut wouldn't come off is because I was using a 19mm socket rather than a 3/4" one .

For those who dont know, 3/4" is 19.05mm.

Aaron Z

I call hogwash.

I use those sockets interchangabally all the time. Most tire irons are even double stamped on one socket 19mm-3/4.

250lbs on a 4' bar is 1000ft-lbs of torque not counting the bouncing. Those nuts should have only been tightened to the 100-120 range. They were too tight or seized and THAT is what broke your socket. NOT the fact that it as 0.05 mm smaller. And for those that dont know, that is only (0.002")

I doubt the tolerance on your sockets are even within two-thousanths of an inch.

HEHE..Just for the heck of it, lets see how far off of the original post we can take this

Hows that for off topic??

going from doc fees, to a little disagreement, to some math, metric-inch conversion, and the tolerance of a 3/4 and 19mm socket

 

[aczlan]

I call hogwash.
I use those sockets interchangabally all the time. Most tire irons are even double stamped on one socket 19mm-3/4.

I agree.

250lbs on a 4' bar is 1000ft-lbs of torque not counting the bouncing. Those nuts should have only been tightened to the 100-120 range. They were too tight or seized and THAT is what broke your socket. NOT the fact that it as 0.05 mm smaller. And for those that dont know, that is only (0.002")
I doubt the tolerance on your sockets are even within two-thousanths of an inch.

I didn't say anything at the time as I didn't want to say something, then later regret it, but I know that he was feeding me a line of BS, HE knew he was feeding me a line of BS, but I dont know that he know that I knew he was feeding me a line of BS.
This is the same place that put 3 waterpumps on that truck in less than 2 years. Since I came into the family, it has not gone back there. If I cannot handle the job, it goes to a small independent shop who is busy enough that they schedule a week out.

Aaron Z

 

[johnrex62]

As a duly recognized instigator of some renown, I have been approached by certain interested parties to ascertain the most direct and effective mean to direct this thread further from the original intent and purpose.

To this end I have studied most vociferously the Obama Health Care Plan documentation, an original copy of the elusive Birth Certificate for aforementioned plan author, political plans and affidavits for the Perry Presidential campaign and certified photographs of the infamous "painted" rock and have conclusively determined that I agree with the honorable gentleman from Maine in that ............ You can't get there from here.



My bill is in the mail gentlemen. Thank You very much.

 

[grsthegreat]

As a duly recognized instigator of some renown, I have been approached by certain interested parties to ascertain the most direct and effective mean to direct this thread further from the original intent and purpose.

To this end I have studied most vociferously the Obama Health Care Plan documentation, an original copy of the elusive Birth Certificate for aforementioned plan author, political plans and affidavits for the Perry Presidential campaign and certified photographs of the infamous "painted" rock and have conclusively determined that I agree with the honorable gentleman from Maine in that ............ You can't get there from here.



My bill is in the mail gentlemen. Thank You very much.

This is well thought and informative bunch of cra*. Congratulations on another fine post that is both uninformative and insightful at the same time. I agree that the birth certificate actually belongs to Arnold Schwarzenegger and not obama. Its this document that has caused the global colapse as we know it. That and snow in the tires.

 

[tungularafishcamp]

Well Gentlemen, your posts prove beyond a shadow of a doubt something I always suspected..........
HST is BETTER than GEAR every day of the week.........
that begins with a vowel!

 

[dodge man]

Talking about Dodge lug nuts gets me all worked up. Don't forget that on older Dodges, the drivers side lugnuts were left hand thread.

 

[Diamondpilot]

My first new car was a 89 S-10 Blazer. 4.3L 4x4. What a POS. Anyway about 3,000 miles into having it I got a flat tire. Drivers rear. I got out and it had a fork in it, literally. It was a kitchen fork and all 4 points put holes in the factory Tire Paws. Another POS. Thanks GM.

Anyway, I could not get the lugs off. I walked a mile to a farmers house on a Sunday. Luckily they had just got home from church and were having lunch. They gave me a plate and told me they would give me a hand when I we all got done eating. This was before the days of cell phones. Anyway, after lunch he got his truck and sent me to the barn to get a piece of 6' fence pipe that way laying along side the barn. I had also used their phone to call my dad. He meet us at the truck and the 3 of us managed to lift the trucks rear wheel off the ground using the lug wrench and cheater bar. If that POS was built half as tough as the lug wrench it may have been a decent truck. My dad said screw it and told me to drive it the 7 miles to the GM dealer on the flat tire which I did. It ate the wheel all up and destroyed the tire.

I got a call the next day and they told me they were going to have to order 4 new wheels and all new studs. They could not get them off and ended up having to burn them off with a torch. I have no clue how tight they were but the truck only had about 3,000 miles so it had to be that way from the factory.

Chris

 

[LD1]

Well Gentlemen, your posts prove beyond a shadow of a doubt something I always suspected..........
HST is BETTER than GEAR every day of the week.........
that begins with a vowel!

Except sundays. Which is a day of rest in which the tractor does not work. So on that day, the cheaper Gear tractors reign king:thumbsup: