short barreled shotgun scabbard mount

[nickel plate]

Assuming the shotgun came from the factory with a pistol grip, had it been less than 18" it would not have been a short barrel shotgun. To be considered a shotgun, ie short barrel, it must have come from the factory with a buttstock. Under the assumption that it didn't come with a buttstock, and it came with less than an 18" barrel, it would come under the heading of an AOW (any other weapon) and the BATF permit to own one, when you can get an LEO signature, is only $5. If it came with a buttstock from the factory and shortened to less than 18", it would be a short barrel shotgun.
I have an Ithica model 37 "Stakeout" that came as a pistol grip pump shotgun with a 12" barrel and permit was $5, but I cannot put a buttstock on it without being in violation of the law. (I would have to pay the $200 permit required for a SBS, not the AOW permit cost).

For the unknowning few, Shotguns with under 18 inch barrels are still legal, they just require additional permiting. Some areas ban the pemited ones, but that is another story.

David from jax

This is a 25+ year old bought new and registered to me in California, Mossberg model 500 ATP and it came only with a real cheap softwood stock which I still have. I added the composite pistol grip about ten years later.

Oldmopar-Sorry for not responding sooner but I just found the receipt for the scabbard purchase. It's a UAG tactical Molle scabbard.

I did manage to get all of the FEL-less jobs done today, even still dodging raindrops so the weatherperson (PC) says clear and warmer tomorrow so I will re-mount the FEL, hose 'er down and post photos of the shotgun mounted in place.

 

[RobertBrown]

With the FEL detached I had several close quarter field jobs to do around here today before re-attaching the FEL and photographing the final scabbard mount photos with shotgun and shells in place but we were hit by a large (for our area this time of year) rain and hail storm for most of the day. I will try to finish up tomorrow but do have some permanently mounted scabbard bracket photos taken yesterday in the shop.

First photo shows the inside of the FEL dock and the four (yellow arrows) 5/16" grade eight hex bolts. There is plenty of room for the hex heads and the FEL vertical arms once again attached to co-exist within the same space. Note the two orange circled holes. These were pre-drilled by NH and covered over on the outside with a full length sticky DANGER/WARNING label, I did not know they existed until pulling the FEL. Due to the proximity of theirs and mine, I decided not to drill another hole and use their hidden hole with a washer.


Second photo shows the four through bolts and the four 5/16" white nylon spacers separating the 3/8" thick FEL dock from the 3/8" thick scabbard backbone. In this instance I didn't want the possibility of water/rust entrapment.

Third photo shows a view from the operator's platform. The shotgun's pistol grip will be positioned inward.

Fourth photo shows the clutch pedal in relation to the scabbard mount. Closests clearance is 1-7/8" and quite acceptable even for my size 13 shoe. Absolutely no touchee.

The last photo I put a white towel in the background to better show the profile. Not the backbone's angle at the bottom of the scabbard mount. I did this for several reasons:

The last/bottom scabbard bracket is narrower in width than the upper three brackets because it only has to house the shotgun's barrel tip.

In designing the scabbard bracket and with that barrel tip width in mind, by making that last bracket narrower than the other three allowed for extra clearance for the clutch foot pedal.

Something else-this is a good time to grease the docking points (no zirks) as they were all absolutely bone dry except the lower right side stationary docking tube.
I'll post the final scabbard mount photos soon.

Consider painting it the same color as the tractor...comouflage, so it doesn't stand out. I was picturing the wide side on the machine.

 

[sandman2234]

I did manage to get all of the FEL-less jobs done today, even still dodging raindrops so the weatherperson (PC) says clear and warmer tomorrow so I will re-mount the FEL, hose 'er down and post photos of the shotgun mounted in place.

Weatherman is the only business I know that you can be wrong 80% of the time and still keep your job.
David from jax

 

[MossflowerWoods]

Weatherman is the only business I know that you can be wrong 80% of the time and still keep your job.
David from jax

Them and Stock market analysts, and Politicians (unfortunately).
David (from VA)

 

[nickel plate]

Here are the final photos-my first ever welding project-74 individual MIG welds. The synthetic scabbard can be reversed to place the pistol grip pointing to port, I prefer starboard.

 

[KubotainNH]

Looks great. From 100 yards away you'd never know it's there.

 

[nickel plate]

Looks great. From 100 yards away you'd never know it's there.

From ten feet away if you don't know your looking at/for, it totally blends in.

 

[MossflowerWoods]

From ten feet away if you don't know your looking at/for, it totally blends in.

SMOKING! VERY NICE!

How hard is it to draw from the scabbard?

David

 

[nickel plate]

SMOKING! VERY NICE!

How hard is it to draw from the scabbard?

David

About one second in, one second out but not loose fitting at all. For the rectangular metal rings, I first built a wood mock up and adjusted them to fit the birdcage, the scabbard and the shotgun.
Measurement wise, the entire fabrication process went better than I thought even down to the pipe tubes that securely hold the twelve 12 gauge shells in place.

 

[KubotainNH]

From ten feet away if you don't know your looking at/for, it totally blends in.

Well, I'm looking at pictures and you're looking at the real thing. I went with a distance that you'd hope to see whatever you'd need the gun for.