What is going on here with my storm door?

[bigtiller]

I smell a class action lawsuit right about now. Might be able to get 5 bucks to put on a new door. :laughing:

Some Larson doors are warranted for live. Others for 5 or 10 years. I had two that cost me nothing but a stamp to send pictures of the damage and they sent me new doors by UPS. I had to put my glass and hardware on the new ones.

 

[JDgreen227]

Some Larson doors are warranted for live. Others for 5 or 10 years. I had two that cost me nothing but a stamp to send pictures of the damage and they sent me new doors by UPS. I had to put my glass and hardware on the new ones.

OP here, back when we built our addition we installed a 6 foot Anderson sliding patio door, when it was about 4 years old an exterior seal failed and water began entering the core of the sliding panel. We called them and they didn't even ask for pictures just to send them proof of purchase, and the sent a new door panel Fedex for free, the panel weighs about 75 pounds and costs about $275 retail. Every company should have such good customer service !!

 

[JDgreen227]

Well if it only lasted 22 years I can see where you would be dissatisfied.
Good Post!

Yeah, if I had posted this thread over on LMF what kind of a response would I have gotten?

RESPONSES ABOUT AS USELESS AS YOURS IS!!!!

And FYI I in no way said I was dissatisfied. I am mainly curious as to why the door is failing after so many years. Do you think Mower Moronic over on LMF would have any idea?HAHAHAHAHA. Worthless turds like him do NOBODY on LMF a favor by hanging around.

BTW, after just spending $22 grand, whay should I give a s--- of my door only lasted 22 years???

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Aluminum needs an acidic environment. In an alkaline environment, the aluminum oxide protective layer converts to aluminum hydroxide and draws more moisture.

 

[ronjhall]

I have seem the same kind of corrosion on RV's with aluminum siding. They all had water leaks above the corrosion.

 

[streetisneat]

G. W. TRAPP :: STORM DOORS I've had good luck with trapp storm doors. I have two sets of double doors on my front entrance and one set on rear French doors. Been on over 20 years. They have outlasted my aluminum siding, all the paint gone from back of house and storm doors still white as can be!:thumbsup:

 

[JDgreen227]

G. W. TRAPP :: STORM DOORS I've had good luck with trapp storm doors. I have two sets of double doors on my front entrance and one set on rear French doors. Been on over 20 years. They have outlasted my aluminum siding, all the paint gone from back of house and storm doors still white as can be!:thumbsup:

Thanks for the info. By any chance, given your screen name and the avatar you use, do you own a Road Runner?

BTW, the link you provided shows Trapp to be a Michigan company, so there should be plenty of dealers locally. :thumbsup:

 

[streetisneat]

Thanks for the info. By any chance, given your screen name and the avatar you use, do you own a Road Runner?

BTW, the link you provided shows Trapp to be a Michigan company, so there should be plenty of dealers locally. :thumbsup:

Well back in the day I did own a 1969 Roadrunner, used to be a drag racer,hence I keep part of the saying "street is neat but the track is were it's at", I did a fair amount of street racing back then also!!!

 

[JDgreen227]

Well back in the day I did own a 1969 Roadrunner, used to be a drag racer,hence I keep part of the saying "street is neat but the track is were it's at", I did a fair amount of street racing back then also!!!

Did you have a 383 or a Hemi...bet of it was a Hemi you are always cussing yourself for selling it...I have been a subscriber to Hemmings Muscle Machines since the first issue...still dream about owning a muscle car again...never gonna happen though!!!

 

[streetisneat]

Unfortunately it was a 383 couldn't afford the Hemi option. I think it was like 300 or 400 bucks more. I only paid $2900.00 out the door! Today the car is worth approx. $30,000. Your right I wish I never sold that car. Today I own a 1994 corvette convertible as a toy with 22000 miles on it very fast car handles and stops much better than the Roadrunner BUT not the same !!!! I like you miss the old muscle cars !!!

 

[JDgreen227]

Unfortunately it was a 383 couldn't afford the Hemi option. I think it was like 300 or 400 bucks more. I only paid $2900.00 out the door! Today the car is worth approx. $30,000. Your right I wish I never sold that car. Today I own a 1994 corvette convertible as a toy with 22000 miles on it very fast car handles and stops much better than the Roadrunner BUT not the same !!!! I like you miss the old muscle cars !!!

I had a '70 Mach 1, 351 4V Cleveland, Hurst shifted 4 speed, 3.50 Traction-Lok, Sport slats/spoiler, every option but air. Grabber Blue with white seats, very rare color combo. It was in near perfect shape at 3 years old, I got $900 trade in value. I'm an idiot. Today $900 is basically pocket money to me...lol

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Unfortunately it was a 383 couldn't afford the Hemi option. I think it was like 300 or 400 bucks more. I only paid $2900.00 out the door! Today the car is worth approx. $30,000. Your right I wish I never sold that car. Today I own a 1994 corvette convertible as a toy with 22000 miles on it very fast car handles and stops much better than the Roadrunner BUT not the same !!!! I like you miss the old muscle cars !!!

I think everyone drove a 383 once. I did. My wife did, before I met her. My friends did. Great engine, but the only thing louder than the exhaust was the sucking sound from the gas tank.

I have a jeep with the 5.2 liter V8, and it's just a new name on the old Chrysler 318. I had to give it a valve job at 235,000 miles, and the mechanic said there wasn't even a ridge in the cylinders.

 

[JDgreen227]

I think everyone drove a 383 once. I did. My wife did, before I met her. My friends did. Great engine, but the only thing louder than the exhaust was the sucking sound from the gas tank.

I have a jeep with the 5.2 liter V8, and it's just a new name on the old Chrysler 318. I had to give it a valve job at 235,000 miles, and the mechanic said there wasn't even a ridge in the cylinders.

318 V8 was the best engine Chrysler ever built. Akin to the GM 3800 V6 and the Ford 300 inline six.

 

[tcreeley]

I've had my vinyl door corrode in a similar fashion. I think it is condensation inside the door. The sawdust glued core (pressboard) absorbs the moisture and over time swells and disintegrates. The sawdust has to go somewhere and it expands with moisture and bows the panels, or corrodes the aluminum. A real wood core would hold up better, or a strofoam core door. Nothing lasts it seems. anymore.

 

[JDgreen227]

I've had my vinyl door corrode in a similar fashion. I think it is condensation inside the door. The sawdust glued core (pressboard) absorbs the moisture and over time swells and disintegrates. The sawdust has to go somewhere and it expands with moisture and bows the panels, or corrodes the aluminum. A real wood core would hold up better, or a strofoam core door. Nothing lasts it seems. anymore.

I have a 15 year old Larsen on my south side, vinyl clad, and the core is severly swelled from moisture, I am going to replace it with the type of storm door they call "mid view" where the kick panel section is only about 12 to 18 inches high. On both the aluminum clad door in my original post and the the vinyl clad door I mention here, the kick panel areas are waist height. That is a much larger area of particle board that can absorb moisture. The full view doors that have no kick panels have no particle board kick panel BUT the weight of the glass gradually warps the door frame and makes it sag. The ChamberDoor models I am considering are specified as NOT having a wood core in the kick panel...not sure what they use...BUT the most expensive premium models are specified as having a wood core. Yeah, probably particle board there too...a $300 door should have better core material.

 

[clemsonfor]

I have a 15 year old Larsen on my south side, vinyl clad, and the core is severly swelled from moisture, I am going to replace it with the type of storm door they call "mid view" where the kick panel section is only about 12 to 18 inches high. On both the aluminum clad door in my original post and the the vinyl clad door I mention here, the kick panel areas are waist height. That is a much larger area of particle board that can absorb moisture. The full view doors that have no kick panels have no particle board kick panel BUT the weight of the glass gradually warps the door frame and makes it sag. The ChamberDoor models I am considering are specified as NOT having a wood core in the kick panel...not sure what they use...BUT the most expensive premium models are specified as having a wood core. Yeah, probably particle board there too...a $300 door should have better core material.

They prolly use the PVC wood like they now make for Facia bord and what they use on boats these days to make the furnature and floors out of. they make it in 4x8ft sheets that are 3/4. Im thinking its either $100 or several hundred dollars for one sheet.

 

[JDgreen227]

They prolly use the PVC wood like they now make for Facia bord and what they use on boats these days to make the furnature and floors out of. they make it in 4x8ft sheets that are 3/4. Im thinking its either $100 or several hundred dollars for one sheet.

Know what you mean, something like the plastic deck lumber...maybe not. I am going to Menards tomorrow will check to see if they know what is on the cores these days.