HydrauLink- a self-contained air over hydraulic top link

[eternalwolf777]

Sure, American ingenuity never got us anywhere, huh?

Have you read this thread? According to some, these people can do nothing right. First, it was 'Made in America' and people complained (a lot) that is was too expensive and not worth it. So, these people go and do what nearly every other manufacturer in the US has done and find a foreign manufacturer so they can compete. They drop their price and now people moan that they're not building it in the US! Nothing is good enough. They want it cheap, good and fast and built here.

Sure, I wish they were building them all here too but I don't fault them for trying to survive in a harsh economy. Do you refuse to buy any products built overseas? You better scratch Wal-Mart, Target, Sears, John Deere, Bobcat, Kubota and just about everybody else off your list while you're at it.

This is nothing less than armchair quarterbacking.

 

[5030]

Sure, American ingenuity never got us anywhere, huh?

Have you read this thread? According to some, these people can do nothing right. First, it was 'Made in America' and people complained (a lot) that is was too expensive and not worth it. So, these people go and do what nearly every other manufacturer in the US has done and find a foreign manufacturer so they can compete. They drop their price and now people moan that they're not building it in the US! Nothing is good enough. They want it cheap, good and fast and built here.

Sure, I wish they were building them all here too but I don't fault them for trying to survive in a harsh economy. Do you refuse to buy any products built overseas? You better scratch Wal-Mart, Target, Sears, John Deere, Bobcat, Kubota and just about everybody else off your list while you're at it.

This is nothing less than armchair quarterbacking.

Maybe for you. Not for me. Lets just say I'm in the manufacturing business making American made products with American raw materials and selling them worldwide and no, not tractor related but you will find me on 'Made in America', not was made in America and the off shored.

Of course I don't refuse to buy products made overseas, that would be ludicrous. However, to initiate a product here (as they did) and then move it offshore to insure continuing high profits, I have a problem with that.

I simply stated the ongoing scenario that is degrading not only our economy but our very existence as an industrial society.

Accept it for what it is and purchase at your own discretion.

 

[Riderguy]

Accept it for what it is and purchase at your own discretion.

I did and the product works as I have expected. Do I wish it was made in America? Sure. But they don't manufacture the product, just design it.

Does the fact that John Deere uses imported engines on their 3x20 series and that the 5000 & 6000 series tractors are imported from India and China get as much thread play as this, I don't think so.

If you don't like the product, don't buy it. I wanted it, bought it and am happy with it for what it does. Enough said.

 

[lilranch2001]

I did and the product works as I have expected. Do I wish it was made in America? Sure. But they don't manufacture the product, just design it.

Does the fact that John Deere uses imported engines on their 3x20 series and that the 5000 & 6000 series tractors are imported from India and China get as much thread play as this, I don't think so.

If you don't like the product, don't buy it. I wanted it, bought it and am happy with it for what it does. Enough said.

^5 I sure do not understand why all these people brow beat this vendor.

 

[tsteahr]

/Rant On/

I suspect the switch to offshore manufacturing was a direct response to people complaining the price was to high. Yet these same people complain about offshore manufacturing. If more people put their money where their mouth is, the product would still be made in the USA.

The product fills a niche. Personally, I was excited when it came out and I was thrilled it was made in the USA. I realized it cost a few dollars more than perhaps it "should have". This was only because we have become accustomed to the pricing structure provided by far east manufacturing. Considering the quality of the product and being made here, I felt the price was very reasonable. I bought one, received over-the-top support from the owner of the company when it was damaged in shipping, and have been happy with the purchase.

We had a Quality product, made in the USA at a fair price. Now typical american consumer mentality has driven the manufacturing offshore.

I have never seen a vendor, making a quality product, receive so much unfounded criticism and animosity. These are the vendors we should support, not chastise that their product costs $40 more than people expect it to.

/Rant Off/

 

[BrianR]

We can complain about off-shore manufacturing all we want, but at the end of the day, we did it to ourselves. We have become too expensive to manufacture anything in this country anymore. Too much red tape, high taxes, and employment benefits, union dues, and on and on.

There is "NO" way the U.S. can compete with China, India, Vietnam and Taiwan when it comes to the final price of the products they produce.

Let's face it......what we have now is a "Global" economy and if the U.N. gets their way, we will have a "One World Order". Just when you thought things couldn't get worse, huh?

I would have bought a Hydraulink no matter where it was made, except I haven't had the money to yet.

 

[5030]

In closing for me at least, I'm not here to browbeat or demean these people.

I just stated the facts as they pertain to American Manufacturing, in as much as my company is in the manufacturing arena, competes on a worldwide basis and has always and will always continue to manufacture hard goods in this country made from domestic sourced materials with American workers.

We believe in American craftsmanship and have continuing pride in our products. As the CEO, I have never felt the need to offshore any product. In fact, if at some juncture I was so severely undercut by a competitor utilizing third world manufacturing, rather than succumb to the same tack, I would cease doing business.

But that's just me and my opinion, however, I'm the one who signs the paychecks and I'm the one who sets the precedents.

'nuff said on my part.

 

[lilranch2001]

Maybe for you. Not for me. Lets just say I'm in the manufacturing business making American made products with American raw materials and selling them worldwide and no, not tractor related but you will find me on 'Made in America', not was made in America and the off shored.

Of course I don't refuse to buy products made overseas, that would be ludicrous. However, to initiate a product here (as they did) and then move it offshore to insure continuing high profits, I have a problem with that.

I simply stated the ongoing scenario that is degrading not only our economy but our very existence as an industrial society.

Accept it for what it is and purchase at your own discretion.

You say you are not here to brow beat, but then you say the statement "to insure continuing high profits" how do you know he was making high profits? How do you know he was not just trying to accomodate all of you who critisized him at each juncture and try to do what he assumed his critics wanted of him and his product, loer prices>

Read this whole thread as I have, the guy seems to have done nothing but try to break into a market with a reasonable product that seems like a decent idea, based on the feed back from people who actually have purchased one, with a price break that may not be the cheapest, but at least it works.

 

[5030]

I read the entire, circuitous thread prior to making my first comment. It was apparent that their asking price initially was too high and sales suffered or should I say that they weren't up to their initial expectations so to placate their discerning customers they chose to move the manufacturing offshore and I presume (because I do manufacture a product so I'm intimately familiar with profit margins), no reduction in profit. If anything,, an increase in bottom line profit with a reduction in retail price because labor and materials are much cheaper.

Of course that is an assumption on my part, but then I don't believe the company is a non-profit company. They, like myself are profit motivated. That is what perpetuates business.

However, for them, the Chi-Com stigma apparently is of less importance than for me. I never want my discerning customers to feel that the products they purchase from me are made offshore because they aren't and I state that plainly up front.

You are, of course entitled to your opinion, just as I am. However, people with your opinion are contributing to the declining economy. Keep that in mind when you loose your job because your employer outsourced offshore for the sake of profit over American Made.

I know you live in a right to work state but that don't in any way relieve you from the responsibility of being pro Made in America.

 

[lilranch2001]

We get it, you are a big wig who manufactures, I think we have read that like 47 times so far.

Who are you to say he made "high profits"?


Has he let you look at his books?
Do you know what costs he had designing his product and bringing it to market.
Do you know how many partners he may have that has invested in his venture, and gets a piece of those "high profits"?
The answer is no to all of the above.

You are just an arrogant self rightious individual who likes to hear himself preach