TIRES QUESTIONS AG vs R4

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YARRA GLEN, Victoria 3775 AUSTRALIA
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Thinking of buying a KUBOTA MX5100
I asked this question in an other thread but i cant seem to find a tire specific thread for any tractor although mine in related to the KUBOTA MX5100 HST 4WD

I have a 15 Acre flat to undulating land with about a third rather steep land with a 40-45 degree angle track to maintain one in every 5 years. [to be used as tourist scenic walking track]

My first jobs are going to be getting rid of some pine stumps and some old pine trees yet to be felled...they regarded as weeds by our environmental people so I dont need a permit. A great deal of landscaping and moving dirt around and possibly enlarging a dam when we get our next dry summer...it been pouring rain over last few weeks so dam never going to let low this year.
[ and snowing up in our little mountains...Mt Hotham..in summer ...amazing.]

Then got a fair bit of water and sewer pipes to lay over time and repair and re-route a new pathway to be used as a scenic walk and then a fair bit of extra planting of native and flowering plants to attract more wildlife birdlife to attract the tourists...but as I intend to also grow chilli on some of the leftover I'm not going to worry too much about chilli eating rabbits, birds, foxes, possums and kangaroos/wallabys ...one reason I chose chilli in the Yarra Valley Wine growing region in Melbourne Vic 3775 Australia.

I did a Grape growing course years ago on possibly growing wine grapes but decided against it because of all the poisions which needed to be sprayed on them...was glad I never did as now there is a glut of vines planted in original beautiful horse country.... And when we had some serious bush fires in 2009 ...the vines got smoked and useless for wine making ontop of the worldwide wines glut.

Luckily the tourist balloon enthusiasts still get the benefits of the magnificant views of the Yarra Valley in the mornings... tho...you wont catch me going onto one of those...lol

After I have done most of landscaping and driveway maintenace ...i'll settle down to growing a few Acres of Chilli plant varieties, a little garlic another rabbit favourite im told...lol...and lettuce and garden fresh vegetables mixed in and Watermelons are now starting to grow well in this Yarra Glen region... my brother up the road accidently grew some delicious water melons over last five years...never heard of in this colder neck of woods in Victoria. I'm sure its not really going to be that easy to grow my chillis and corn but even I dont like hot chillis but I do like Corn, Water Melons, fruits I already got ....

The soil around here never been cropped so is true virgin organic soils ..its either been native bush, pine forest or cattle and horse grazing land so we dont have the poisoned land problems they have in other spots. Dieldren was a problem about 50 years back and now some farms cannot be used for growing vegies or selling cattle which graze on such properties....some rich brown volcanic mountain soils are now used for growing non edible flowers Tulips... Tesselaars are very famous in the Valley for Tulips..they have annual Tulip Festivals..

So I suppose my question is are Ag tires [we spell it Tyres] going to be the best way to go. It will get muddy in winter on the flat.
 
   / TIRES QUESTIONS AG vs R4 #2  
I asked this question in an other thread but i cant seem to find a tire specific thread for any tractor although mine in related to the KUBOTA MX5100 HST 4WD

I have a 15 Acre flat to undulating land with about a third rather steep land with a 40-45 degree angle track to maintain one in every 5 years. [to be used as tourist scenic walking track]

My first jobs are going to be getting rid of some pine stumps and some old pine trees yet to be felled...they regarded as weeds by our environmental people so I dont need a permit. A great deal of landscaping and moving dirt around and possibly enlarging a dam when we get our next dry summer...it been pouring rain over last few weeks so dam never going to let low this year.
[ and snowing up in our little mountains...Mt Hotham..in summer ...amazing.]

Then got a fair bit of water and sewer pipes to lay over time and repair and re-route a new pathway to be used as a scenic walk and then a fair bit of extra planting of native and flowering plants to attract more wildlife birdlife to attract the tourists...but as I intend to also grow chilli on some of the leftover I'm not going to worry too much about chilli eating rabbits, birds, foxes, possums and kangaroos/wallabys ...one reason I chose chilli in the Yarra Valley Wine growing region in Melbourne Vic 3775 Australia.

I did a Grape growing course years ago on possibly growing wine grapes but decided against it because of all the poisions which needed to be sprayed on them...was glad I never did as now there is a glut of vines planted in original beautiful horse country.... And when we had some serious bush fires in 2009 ...the vines got smoked and useless for wine making ontop of the worldwide wines glut.

Luckily the tourist balloon enthusiasts still get the benefits of the magnificant views of the Yarra Valley in the mornings... tho...you wont catch me going onto one of those...lol

After I have done most of landscaping and driveway maintenace ...i'll settle down to growing a few Acres of Chilli plant varieties, a little garlic another rabbit favourite im told...lol...and lettuce and garden fresh vegetables mixed in and Watermelons are now starting to grow well in this Yarra Glen region... my brother up the road accidently grew some delicious water melons over last five years...never heard of in this colder neck of woods in Victoria. I'm sure its not really going to be that easy to grow my chillis and corn but even I dont like hot chillis but I do like Corn, Water Melons, fruits I already got ....

The soil around here never been cropped so is true virgin organic soils ..its either been native bush, pine forest or cattle and horse grazing land so we dont have the poisoned land problems they have in other spots. Dieldren was a problem about 50 years back and now some farms cannot be used for growing vegies or selling cattle which graze on such properties....some rich brown volcanic mountain soils are now used for growing non edible flowers Tulips... Tesselaars are very famous in the Valley for Tulips..they have annual Tulip Festivals..

So I suppose my question is are Ag tires [we spell it Tyres] going to be the best way to go. It will get muddy in winter on the flat.


You have to have a permit to cut trees on your own property?
 
   / TIRES QUESTIONS AG vs R4
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Yes, the [red lefty wing] greenies minority are taking over the world and I planted a fair few trees myself too...luckily we have bush fires sometimes..unfortunately several people died in 2009 only up the road from me and my brother nearly lost his and familys when the fires took hold of the undergrowth NOT permiited to be grazed or collected for firewood. We have had a change of State Government now and they permit firewood collection without a permit now and the Cattlemen have been allowed back into the high country crown land to graze their stock.

Yes its a disgrace and thats why I been previously actively involed in politics as a candidate to getting rid of that greenie pestilence without success unfortunately ..grows like Green Water Algae but now involved in underground politics and have been contributing to your Bob Livingston Personal Liberty Digest in recent months and supporting Dr Ron Paul...but i try keep politics out of these threads even though it does affect our lives and ability to operate any business for which they then expect us to freely pay our taxes..

They just keep poking their nose in everyone elses business...i could go on on what i think of them...but i can ramble on for days and get all worked up ...but you know what I mean...wheres Ruby and Oswald when we need them...lol luckily these days the pen is mightier than the sword
 
   / TIRES QUESTIONS AG vs R4
  • Thread Starter
#4  
Sorry forgot to mention yes we need a permit if tree or vegetation is not a weed which luckily the say a Pine Tree is a weed as it was introduced into country from elsewhere and if any tree is above a certain height or diameter need to get a Shire Council permit for a fee too..lol

While back I was moving some soil around and putting it next to an old gum tree ... the council came to visit due to a nosey nearby property owner and they 'directed' not to put soil ontop under branchline of this valuable old and sometimes dangerous tree otherwise that would kill the tree off...
 
   / TIRES QUESTIONS AG vs R4 #5  
For the ground engaging work you describe you'll be doing, I'd get the R-1 Ags hands down. I've had both and I was not pleased with R-4 performance for most of my tractor duties.
 
   / TIRES QUESTIONS AG vs R4 #6  
I have R4's on mine but for the work you are describing I would go with the R1 (AG) tires, much better for ground engaging work and crop managment
 
   / TIRES QUESTIONS AG vs R4 #7  
My experience is that I have been pleased with my R4s except in mud. My next tractor will have ag tires. The industrial tires do not clean out if the soil is wet.
 
   / TIRES QUESTIONS AG vs R4 #8  
I think the best use for R4 tires is for industrial uses - basically, lots of loader work - especially if it happens to be on concrete. They carry weight better and wear slower on concrete than ag tires. For what you describe ag tires are best.
 
   / TIRES QUESTIONS AG vs R4 #9  
Mud=Ag
 
   / TIRES QUESTIONS AG vs R4 #10  
I have R4's on mine but for the work you are describing I would go with the R1 (AG) tires, much better for ground engaging work and crop managment

Well said - I agree 100%!!!! For your use R1's would be perfect
 

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