Coyote

[CowboyRon]

I couldn't shoot them guys either. I saw my little guy today and thought of this thread he looked like a little yote. He is my 5th shepherd and my 2nd white one, even though he has a lot of tan.

 

[MossflowerWoods]

I couldn't shoot them guys either. I saw my little guy today and thought of this thread he looked like a little yote. He is my 5th shepherd and my 2nd white one, even though he has a lot of tan.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a white German Shepherd before... DANGED cute!

I'd like to get a good farm dog for me. But my middle daughter got knocked over and seriously slobbered on by the next door neighbor's newfundland when she was 3 (she is 11 now) and really the long term result of that has been she currently states "I don't like dogs, especially big dogs" she tolerates litte dogs like Grandma's westie (I'm not a fan little barky dogs).

I really like short haired collies, shepherds, maybe an aussie shepherd (I prefer working dogs).

My wife has allergies so it needs to live outside, and it is not like I have any free time to train a dog (and myself).

Where does one go to find white shepherds?

But I fear my neighbors might think he was a Yote too...
David

 

[CowboyRon]

I'm not sure I've ever seen a white German Shepherd before... DANGED cute!

I'd like to get a good farm dog for me. But my middle daughter got knocked over and seriously slobbered on by the next door neighbor's newfundland when she was 3 (she is 11 now) and really the long term result of that has been she currently states "I don't like dogs, especially big dogs" she tolerates litte dogs like Grandma's westie (I'm not a fan little barky dogs).

I really like short haired collies, shepherds, maybe an aussie shepherd (I prefer working dogs).

My wife has allergies so it needs to live outside, and it is not like I have any free time to train a dog (and myself).

Where does one go to find white shepherds?

But I fear my neighbors might think he was a Yote too...
David

They are fairly rare but not impossible. My older one was a rescue dog, and the little guy we got for free on cl.
I'm sorry about your daughter, I know that has to be tough. You might try an Aussie, they are the best farm dog and not too big. Hold up I don't wanna start any wars in here, Aussies are one of the best farm dogs. Maybe a tiny puppy would be the best way to start her out. I'm sure the little guy would love her.

 

[NSBound]

... my middle daughter ... currently states "I don't like dogs, especially big dogs"

My wife has allergies...

...so it needs to live outside

...it is not like I have any free time to train a dog (and myself).
David

No offense meant, but if your daughter doesn't really like dogs, and your wife is allergic, and it will have to live outside, and you have no time for it, maybe you should rethink owning a dog. Dogs are people too, and they neeed love and attention, and it sounds like this might be difficult in your situation.

 

[MossflowerWoods]

No offense meant, but if your daughter doesn't really like dogs, and your wife is allergic, and it will have to live outside, and you have no time for it, maybe you should rethink owning a dog. Dogs are people too, and they neeed love and attention, and it sounds like this might be difficult in your situation.

Not offended at all.

But pretty good summary of why I do not yet have a dog. :|

My only argument is that Dogs are dogs, not people. There is plenty of argument that says many dogs are far better than many people, and vice versa as well.

I like dogs that are dogs. Good dogs, especially dogs with a purpose seem happier than pampered poochies who are more about decoration that function. I can't stand little yappy decorative dogs.

I feel that way about people too in general.

I have a bunny, 2 horses, 6 ducks, 1 rooster, 9 guinea fowl, and I think 20 chickens. Eventually a dog will fit into that mix too.

Be well,
David

 

[Ken45101]

I'm not sure I've ever seen a white German Shepherd before.

My uncle had one. I distinctly remember him since he jumped up can clawed my just under my eye when I was 6 yo. 6 stitches and a scar for many years.

ON THE SUBJECT OF COYOTES....Our one dog was missing today. Fortunately, I was cutting firewood at our southern edge this morning and heard a persistent barking quite a distance away. To make a long story short, I found him, caught in a coyote snare about a half mile away.

If I had not been cutting wood down that way, or if he had not been barking, or had not been on a ridgetop, I would have never found him. He is lucky that he didn't strangle himself or cut his throat. It would be a horrid way to die if the weather was bad...

As far as I can tell, snares are legal in Ohio but not the way this one was set up (must be tagged and checked every 24 hours).

Ken

 

[wawajake]

This is one of my older but clearer pictures of coyotes up my way. yep they are big, I figure it is one of those wolf cross breed ones.
Most nights they run the ridges around my place , they have made deer hunting much more difficult, the rabbits are taking a beating and these coyotes have no predators , except, man on the rare occasion.
This year I plan to start to take action with gun. My dog (an Aussie) is too small to protect herself from these, and will chase unless I stop her. It doesn't help that my dog has similar colorings to a coyote, (she wears a hunting vest in fall)

 

[Taylortractornut]

David I ve been through this with alot of folks that bought pups frm my dogs. Start with a puppy at six weeks and let her work with it every day. She ll love it as a pup and get attached to it as it grows. Ive had white sheperds since I was 9 and Im 32 now. I have a the great grand daughter of my first ones.


One time we were missing a collie and we were looking for her. One night dad woke me up to go with him and we thought we heard her howling. We went back past the neighbors farm and In the woods down a deer trail and found a big yellow dog in a snare. Dad shot at a coyote circling the dog. Dad and I petted him and got him lose. He kinda rubbed around on us and trotted off. We had one man we knew of that snared and he didnt tag or mark them. He snared for dogs, yotes and deer. We made rounds and clipped every one he set out every 2days. The old collie just trotted on home.

My neighbor just was put in a wheel chair, He was the one here that made coyotes fear open ground and humans. I guess Ill have to take up the hobby now.

 

[dieselalles]

Coyotes don't get a pass here. Red fox and bobcat do because they are native and though they are not rare, they are infrequently seen. I've seen coyotes in broad daylight within 10 feet of our house. They are intelligent and have adapted well. Out West the coyotes were lanky and rough looking I remember. The coyotes here are fat and sassy with beautiful coats. But that's because they have a lot to feed on such as small dogs, cats, guinea fowl, ducks, geese, chickens, rabbits and quail. The only thing I've seen that has adapted to this infestation are my mother's peacocks. They have learned to roost high in the branches of the trees to avoid them.

Another problem we have are with abandoned dogs. People take them out to the river bottom where our farm is and dump them. They will then start running in packs and that's when the trouble starts. I've found that dogs don't mind going after larger livestock, but the coyotes usually don't. Dogs tend to kill more for sport and leave the carcass laying there or only partially consume it where coyotes will only leave patches of hair or feathers after they are done.

A lone dog I tend to leave alone, but if they are traveling in a pack it gets my attention real quick, especially when close to livestock. That or a coyote will get a 130 grain .270 Winchester slug dispatched in their direction.

And how serious am I about the dog problem? When I was a kid walking out of our woods one evening after squirrel hunting, I was attacked by a pack of around 8 dogs. I had just crossed a large ditch on the edge of the woods when they came up the bank behind me and were practically on top of me. I managed to shoot the lead dog, causing the rest to run in circles around the downed dog. I then shot a second dog and the rest ran off. If I had a fishing pole rather than a shotgun, there's no telling what might have happened.

 

[toppop52]

Had a large coyote shot about 5 miles from here recently, I'm getting worried they're here or near here. I will shoot first and.... well shoot again.

As for pack dogs, they are as dangerous as any wild animal alive and I will shoot into packs any time I see them. They are less of a problem here, but as a kid in northeastern NC there were a couple times when they became a problem and had to be broken up.