Coyote

toppop52 · Jan 13, 2012

I don't know about red wolf, they're range is very limited and just recently started crossing paths with coyotes again. But he sure has that look.

Wyobuckaroo · Jan 14, 2012

I did not read all the posts in this thread, but can add some info.

There was a TV documentary about the person killed (post 6) in the north east. The biologist and scientist in that area (n.e. US and Canada) have determined the coyotes indeed have crossed with wolves of that area to produce a "super coyote" that is an EXCEPTIONALLY dangerous animal.

Now, how far south and west they range from that area, no one knows for sure yet. I will suspect the migration of this cross species will be westerly north of the major Canadian population centers. West past the Great Lakes before moving south again.

This will be kind of opposite the migration route that Mountain Lions have traveled lately to get to the n.e. US.

Back in the olden days when I was a kid in northern Wyoming, coyotes were VERY territorial and did not bother live stock unless they learned to. So you let them alone to keep other coyotes away. BUT.... Once they learned to bother live stock.......... Open season.

Good luck

CurlyDave · Jan 14, 2012

chipsndust said:
Recent game camera picture of Eastern coyote. Definitely a different critter from the ones in the West/South. Some folks in the Adirondacks call them "brush wolves"

That animal is not limited to the east.

In the fall of 2011, I was deer hunting in OR, when one just like that trotted out of the woods and looked at me for about 30 seconds. I had set my rifle down to attend to other business, and the moment I picked it up he ran off into the woods.

deerefan · Jan 14, 2012

Wyobuckaroo said:
I did not read all the posts in this thread, but can add some info.

There was a TV documentary about the person killed (post 6) in the north east. The biologist and scientist in that area (n.e. US and Canada) have determined the coyotes indeed have crossed with wolves of that area to produce a "super coyote" that is an EXCEPTIONALLY dangerous animal.

Now, how far south and west they range from that area, no one knows for sure yet. I will suspect the migration of this cross species will be westerly north of the major Canadian population centers. West past the Great Lakes before moving south again.

This will be kind of opposite the migration route that Mountain Lions have traveled lately to get to the n.e. US.

Back in the olden days when I was a kid in northern Wyoming, coyotes were VERY territorial and did not bother live stock unless they learned to. So you let them alone to keep other coyotes away. BUT.... Once they learned to bother live stock.......... Open season.

Good luck

I agree on the live stock/open season quote. When they start getting after my horses or cattle, i will shoot them. I let them walk for now.

Ridgewalker · Jan 15, 2012

I came back to this thread yesterday and was shocked to see how it had taken off. I think if someone has lost livestock to them or had other damage then they
are more willing to take a shot. One positive is the target practice that provides.

I have decided that they get a pass until I have a reason to not give them a pass. That could include just being seen too often. I don't have any critters of my own to worry about other than the house mutts and normally we are with them when they are out.

I have been firing at will at the squirrels that hit my bird feeder. I use my son's old daisy red rider and it stings them enough to make the hop right off my 15' high deck. It's fun to watch the landings!

Bigfoot62 · Jan 15, 2012

jinjimbob said:
Get a proper fence.

You are feeding the coyotes.

hmmmm

I have a very good fence. 39" net wire with 3 strands of barb wire on top. It won't stop a coyote. In fact, an adult coyote can clear a 6' fence.

So, what's your point?

Hmmmmm

buck12 · Jan 15, 2012

Bigfoot62 said:
I have a very good fence. 39" net wire with 3 strands of barb wire on top. It won't stop a coyote. In fact, an adult coyote can clear a 6' fence.

So, what's your point?

Hmmmmm

As resourceful as coyotes can be they may be like a dog I had as a kid and learn to climb a fence.