AMSoil Experiences with Cars & Trucks

[2720wes]

I bought a new John Deere 6330 tractor last spring, 105 horsepower. It cost 73 K with the loader and grapple I got. I also have a 08 Dodge Dually with Cummis, that truck was 34 K new, and only has 25,000 miles on it now. I know I am risking everything, but I am using Chevron Delo 400 engine oil, CJ-4 spec in both. Any day now, the motors will freeze up, and I will have to rebuild. I'm just hard headed, if only Amsoil was used day one, I'd be set for at least 40 more years, actually I would not even need an oil change in anything till probably 2018. I wish an Ams guy would come by here, tie me up, ransack my house looking for money, and then use the cash to order me in some oil. Darn it, I've got to quit doing that Delo, it's worked so well for me for about 30 years now, but is bound to fail soon.:laughing: (couldn't resist)

I don't remember anyone saying your engines are going to wear out early if you use quality 'dino' oil and regular changes. Myself and others have said we use a high quality synthetic like amsoil because we like being able to go longer between changes for about the same amount of money or less depending on the change interval. sw03 has numbers to back up the fact that amsoil can go longer than regular oil and some other synthetics resulting in fewer changes.

The bottom line is your engines and my engines will last a long time. We will have a similar per quart cost because I will need fewer changes.

 

[sw03]

BUT based on the amsoil website as a commercial account what you buy is NOT for resale.. So I think my statement is correct for ppl buying from a dealer to make sure they are getting product at 'dealer cost'

Brian

You will not see commerical acct on there site. A commercial account is FOR resale and selling to businesses (not little users). That is the basis for it. You cannot just sign-up on there site.

Just saying a commerical acct is why cheaper then PC or a dealer.

 

[brucew44guns]

I don't remember anyone saying your engines are going to wear out early if you use quality 'dino' oil and regular changes. Myself and others have said we use a high quality synthetic like amsoil because we like being able to go longer between changes for about the same amount of money or less depending on the change interval. sw03 has numbers to back up the fact that amsoil can go longer than regular oil and some other synthetics resulting in fewer changes.

The bottom line is your engines and my engines will last a long time. We will have a similar per quart cost because I will need fewer changes.

When I look in the real world of trucking, and that is where heavy duty diesels are running by the millions of engines, not too may use synthetic oil, unless they are up in the Klondike or similar weather situations. Take UPS for example, literally thousands of trucks. If they could save much money at all on each vehicle, and extend drains etc, , they would use AMS, but they don't. Here in Kansas they use an oil that's private label hardly even known but by a few, and it's average duty and average quality. To each his own, but no one could ever do a sales job on me---that I would start losing sleep till I got some AMS product in my engines, despite the fact that I can admit it's ok product. The product is high quality admittedly, but the world is not looking to them only, for service and success. There are others that perform as well.

 

[thatguy]

You will not see commerical acct on there site. A commercial account is FOR resale and selling to businesses (not little users). That is the basis for it. You cannot just sign-up on there site.

Just saying a commerical acct is why cheaper then PC or a dealer.

A commercial account may be cheaper but based on the statements I copied below, commercial accounts are for own use only - unless I am missing something.

Based on a commercial acct not selling product - I still stand by my original statement that if you (as joe blow individual) buy from a dealer and want to check to make sure you get dealer pricing you can add a PC membership to your cart to see the dealer pricing.


the first statement is from an dealer amsoil website and the second directly from the amsoil website.
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A commercial account is defined as any business, regardless of size or entity which will purchase lubricants and products to be used only for the conduct of their business and not for resale to another company, business, or individuals.

http://www.synthetic-lubricants-site.com/info/commercial.html
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Companies purchasing lubricants for use in company vehicles or equipment, may qualify for an AMSOIL Commercial Account. AMSOIL Commercial Accounts purchase AMSOIL products at wholesale commercial prices for use in your business vehicles and equipment.

http://www.amsoil.com/opportunity.aspx
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Brian

 

[sw03]

A commercial account may be cheaper but based on the statements I copied below, commercial accounts are for own use only - unless I am missing something.

Based on a commercial acct not selling product - I still stand by my original statement that if you (as joe blow individual) buy from a dealer and want to check to make sure you get dealer pricing you can add a PC membership to your cart to see the dealer pricing.


the first statement is from an dealer amsoil website and the second directly from the amsoil website.
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A commercial account is defined as any business, regardless of size or entity which will purchase lubricants and products to be used only for the conduct of their business and not for resale to another company, business, or individuals.

http://www.synthetic-lubricants-site.com/info/commercial.html
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Companies purchasing lubricants for use in company vehicles or equipment, may qualify for an AMSOIL Commercial Account. AMSOIL Commercial Accounts purchase AMSOIL products at wholesale commercial prices for use in your business vehicles and equipment.

http://www.amsoil.com/opportunity.aspx
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Brian

okay--- Jsut saying, You will NOT find a commerical dealer on the site. You HAVE to buy all products by the case; where is that? A commercial dealer ONLY re-sales the products and cannot sell to "little people". They are the ones for certain "zones".

YMMV

 

[PoorMansCat]

I can do a once a year amsoil oil change for about $55. A 7500 mile change with a local Walmart name brand oil was about $22 per change, maybe you can find cheaper but still need 2 or 3 changes. I refuse to use the $2 quart no name brand oil. I was to nervous to do a 7500 change with dino oil so I did 5000, over $60. 3000 miles was way expensive.

I admit I was nervous about an extended drain the first time but an oil sample (one time) proved my engine wasn't going to blow up and I slowly got over the old 3000-5000 mile change 'rule' and only changing oil once a year is a big selling point for me. My truck cost $23,000, I'm not worried about putting a high quality oil in it for $55 a year.

If at 200,000 miles my engine wears out because of bad oil I'll come on here and say 'I guess I was wrong". But I bet that won't happen.

cost of oil sample??.. $10???
MY offer to buy if an Amsoil dealer could beat my price was kinda loaded question... MY oil is free and the oil samples have always came back good running 7500 miles on dino oil.
The difference between the oil I use and Amsoil will not be the deciding factor as to whether the truck lives or dies. Almost any modern diesel engine oil will protect your engine adequately. I know of some early 7.3L PSD engines with almost 500K on the clock that have run "whatever is cheapest" since new from Wally World. Original injectors and HPOP!!!
If you want to spend extra $$$$ for what one feels is better, so be it, i'm just not interested.
I have personally witnessed what "ANOTHER" well known synthetic DEO has done to many diesel engines, so for me, I'm gonna stick with whats been working for the last 50+ years..

 

[2720wes]

cost of oil sample??.. $10???
MY offer to buy if an Amsoil dealer could beat my price was kinda loaded question... MY oil is free and the oil samples have always came back good running 7500 miles on dino oil.
The difference between the oil I use and Amsoil will not be the deciding factor as to whether the truck lives or dies. Almost any modern diesel engine oil will protect your engine adequately. I know of some early 7.3L PSD engines with almost 500K on the clock that have run "whatever is cheapest" since new from Wally World. Original injectors and HPOP!!!
If you want to spend extra $$$$ for what one feels is better, so be it, i'm just not interested.
I have personally witnessed what "ANOTHER" well known synthetic DEO has done to many diesel engines, so for me, I'm gonna stick with whats been working for the last 50+ years..

If your oil is free of course you can't do better than that but I still say why should I do more oil changes when for a little more $$$ or less $$$ (depending on change interval of dino oil) I can do one a year with a quality synthetic like Amsoil.

You keep doing what has worked for 50+ years and I'll keep doing what has worked for 40 years and we will both be happy with well protected engines. I'll be extra happy because I cut down on changing oil, something I'd gladly pay extra to avoid.

 

[sw03]

cost of oil sample??.. $10???
MY offer to buy if an Amsoil dealer could beat my price was kinda loaded question... MY oil is free and the oil samples have always came back good running 7500 miles on dino oil.
The difference between the oil I use and Amsoil will not be the deciding factor as to whether the truck lives or dies. Almost any modern diesel engine oil will protect your engine adequately. I know of some early 7.3L PSD engines with almost 500K on the clock that have run "whatever is cheapest" since new from Wally World. Original injectors and HPOP!!!
If you want to spend extra $$$$ for what one feels is better, so be it, i'm just not interested.
I have personally witnessed what "ANOTHER" well known synthetic DEO has done to many diesel engines, so for me, I'm gonna stick with whats been working for the last 50+ years..

If it works great. I tried it when I lived there (Katy) and it performed good, not great (dino)...Up in winder land, not so good. I like being able to go out with no engine heater at alomst -30F and no issue.. A dino, good luck!

 

[PoorMansCat]

absolutely.. synthetics have their place.. not questioning that.. and arctic conditions are a great example of or synthetics superiority. I just dont have that issue with being 70 degrees here today!!..

 

[crashz]

If your oil is free of course you can't do better than that but I still say why should I do more oil changes when for a little more $$$ or less $$$ (depending on change interval of dino oil) I can do one a year with a quality synthetic like Amsoil.

Just a little counter point, as I couldn't get away with 1 year changes on my daily driver either way, but I take the time to grease, clean, inspect and lube up other things during my oil changes. Also drain the pan and refill the transmission. Hence, I'd probably be under the truck anyway. My last truck, a 2004 GMC 1/2 ton, with 178K miles was on the original frontend and transmision. It carried a heavy plow in the winters too.

Not saying I'd miss crawling around in my gravel driveway in the winter though...