Fertilizer

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Bob Ha

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Urea fertilizer 46-0-0 in my area is costing $500 per ton @ 200lbs per acre ($50 per acre) is way too expensive so I'm looking for alternatives. Done some research and found SEA Minerals @ around $3 per acre. Anyone used this type of fertilizer? I would love to hear the pros and cons. I may give it a try on 20 or so acres this year and see how it performs.

http://www.seaagri.com/
 
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I can understand the purported benefits of sea salt and trace minerals in dietary functions, from people to animals, but really struggling to understand how this is a replacement for urea.:confused2::confused2:
 
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Wow. Sake oil. Lot of these sorts of products make your crop look greener for a week, but give you no long lasting effect and don't add any yield at all.

While trace minerals can be a good and needed thing on a grass crop - you didn't say what you are growing I'm assuming a grass hay? - you canget those minerals in a higher rate with less killing salt content for less money, so this seems to be a terrible waste of money.

You won't get any nitrogen from the salt product, so there is no comparison, one would not replace or preform like the other one in any ay shape or form.

You need your P, K, & N right, and first your ph proper, before those minor trace monerals will ever have any effect.

Get the big ones right first.

--->Paul
 
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Urea fertilizer 46-0-0 in my area is costing $500 per ton @ 200lbs per acre ($50 per acre) is way too expensive so I'm looking for alternatives. Done some research and found SEA Minerals @ around $3 per acre. Anyone used this type of fertilizer? I would love to hear the pros and cons. I may give it a try on 20 or so acres this year and see how it performs.

SeaAgri Inc. - SEA-90: Soil, Crop and Livestock Nutrients from the Sea

So you want to replace a pure-nitrogen fertilizer with something that contains no nitrogen:confused:. Discuss.
 
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Collect your family's urine and dilute it 50%. It's a good 18-0-0 material, and free.
 
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No problem-just drink more beer!!!
 
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No problem-just drink more beer!!!

:thumbsup:

Urea fertilizer 46-0-0 in my area is costing $500 per ton @ 200lbs per acre ($50 per acre) is way too expensive so I'm looking for alternatives. Done some research and found SEA Minerals @ around $3 per acre. Anyone used this type of fertilizer? I would love to hear the pros and cons. I may give it a try on 20 or so acres this year and see how it performs.

http://www.seaagri.com/

What are you growing that needs N yet $50 is to much money?

I would look for a farmer that needs manure spreading rights or try NH3.
 
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And your going by your soil sample?
 
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Bob - it's SuperBowl weekend - me and the boys should be able to get you a tanker full of "sample" - just let me know where you would like it delivered? :)
 
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I think the beer party in the field would be cheaper & more effective than that Root Magic scammer. :)

Actually that sort of product from a reputable place is beoming quite popular, it tops off a field with the right lime and fertilizer to start with, an extra push. The micros are indeed important. But you gotta start with good soil with good fertility already, not skipping the real applications.

2 gallons are about 20 lbs of product.

Typically one applies 500-5000 lbs of lime to a field low on lime, to help it out for the next 5 years or so. How does this 20 lbs of product help a whole acre with ph?

A 16-8-4 product applied at 20 lbs per acre is 3.2 lbs of N, 1.6 lbs of P, and .8 lb of K spread per acre. About a worthless amount. Your hay will use up remaining nutrients in your soil trying to grow, and this magic spray will make it 'look' greener for a week, and one thinks wonders what it does. Actually, it is depeating your soil of nutrients, and leaving you much poorer for the next years, as you need to deal with poor soils now.....

The micros, which were not mentioned as to what they were, can be worthwhile _IF_ your plants are well fed with N, P, and K to the levels they need.

Without a soil test, you have no idea what ph your soil has, how much N,P, or K is in the soil.

_No one_ can tell you their fertilizer will feed the whole crop with a set amount of fert unless they know what your soil tests to begin with. _No one_ can say their product will satisfy all ph issues with one set rate.

On that alone, I would _never_ do business with a scammer like this. He is lying to you.

But, I'm not against a good micro, or a foliar product, from a good company that gets your soil right to begin with with good fertility products, and then puts these light applications over the top.

One can't really believe 20 lbs of magic liquid is going to substitute for a 1000 lbs of real fertilizer and lime, would you? We only get 45-50 crops in our life if we are lucky, it really hurts to mess one up by skimping too much on magic products.

--->Paul
 
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Or by what the future crop is expected to use?

Yep ... when I take in my samples I tell the extension office what I'm planning and thats what the test are for.
 
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:thumbsup:

What are you growing that needs N yet $50 is to much money?

I would look for a farmer that needs manure spreading rights or try NH3.

If you had Tyson chicken operation nearby that needed to be rid of a few hundred tons of litter, you'd be golden.
 
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If you had Tyson chicken operation nearby that needed to be rid of a few hundred tons of litter, you'd be golden.

Thats the truth ... I havn't checked recently. Whats litter going for?
 
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Thats the truth ... I havn't checked recently. Whats litter going for?

BlueRiver, everywhere from free-you load to free, but with a loading fee for their operator, to $10 a ton. Just depends on whether the chicken house has a need for their product or not, I suppose.

Better to have one close by to really benefit, as the fuel/transport costs eat into the savings, of course.

Our chicken house 100' away from our one patch. :D
 
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BlueRiver, everywhere from free-you load to free, but with a loading fee for their operator, to $10 a ton. Just depends on whether the chicken house has a need for their product or not, I suppose.

Better to have one close by to really benefit, as the fuel/transport costs eat into the savings, of course.

Our chicken house 100' away from our one patch. :D

Its been a while since I asked about it ... I may check into it again. Tulsa and Arkansas is where it would have to come from. Trucking maybe an obstacle. I've not used any ... have been told it takes a couple years to see some results.
 
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Its been a while since I asked about it ... I may check into it again. Tulsa and Arkansas is where it would have to come from. Trucking maybe an obstacle. I've not used any ... have been told it takes a couple years to see some results.

Actually, chicken manure/litter is fairly quick release, but the microbes and tilth increase is outstanding and the benefits last for a long time. It transforms dirt into soil quicker than anything else I've ever used. Dairy/beef is my second choice. Any feedlots out your way that would be closer than a chicken house?
 

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